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I thought I'd share this forehead slapper. The guy want’s to put a RB26DETT (Skyline engine for those who don’t even pretend to memorize engine codes) into his 95 Maxima. Maybe he knows our old buddy Greensuby.Hopefully it’s a joke….but it does get me thinking about my Volvo T5 swap into my new wagon…right rear wheel drive of course.
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Wow.

Transverse sixes are pretty much impossible in any modern mid-size car, and the RB26DETT is a HUGE engine.

The T5 is the transverse five-cylinder, right? iirc, they did that because they wanted more cylinders and displacement than four, but couldn't realistically fit in six. Give it up for Swedish sensibility.
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The new Suzuki whateveritscalled has an inline 6. I assume it's transverse. I had to look twice at the commercial that showed it. It's the only one I know of and there's no way in hell an RB26 is going to fit that way. Even if he converted to rwd somehow, I'm not sure it would fit unless he were going to shift from the back seat. Why a Maxima anyway? The engine it has is great and they're nice cars (SEs anyway), but the chassis just isn't that great for much more power. Rear suspension design kind of sucks.

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Post by azn2nr »

take it easy on the guy. the rb isnt that big imo but anything is posible with a ton of money. if he has the dough more power to him. one of my friends is puting a rb26 into his s13 coupe (not hatch) and heel be the one of the first if not the first one to have done it in the states. but he has the moneys and the resourses to do it. ive seen v8's in focouses and miatas. just remember anything is possible with a welder.
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There are RB26's in S13's/14's in the states, your buddy won't be the first.

I think one of the cooler things I've seen is the SR20DET powered Miata :).

The RB26 is a BIG engine. If you've never seen one in person, you need to. You'd have better luck buying a Skyline, and making it look like a Maxima. It'd be cheaper.
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But the S13 is designed for that type of drivetrain. I think SCC put one in an S13 or 14. The Maxima isn't even offered in AWD so there's no provision for the necessary hardware. I think the RB26 + transmission is too long for the Maxima without major reengineering anyway. Everything would have to be redesigned and then you'd have to tune the suspension (which would need to be completely custom in the rear as it's a strangely controlled beam axle) nearly from scratch. Seems a waste of an RB26 to me. He'd be better off putting FI of some kind on the V6.

I'll be hard on him because people die or go bankrupt for operations they can't afford that cost less or about equal to what this project would. Then again, there are a million other things I could say that about. I guess I'm too thoughtful (or is it guilty?) to embrace capitalism 100% so maybe it's my problem, not his.

It's an interesting bar stool 'what if', but I hope that's all it is.

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Post by BAC5.2 »

Only the Skyline GT-R was AWD. The GT-T was RWD :). I'm fuzzy on Skyline knowledge, but I'm pretty sure about that.

You'd have to do SO much custom work on a Maxima, it'd be ridiculous. Swap the rear end from an R32 (since the R34 would be WAY to wide), cut out the interior and build a transmission tunnel. Bump the firewall back 5 or 6 inches, custom... everything. Then it might be OK.

Besides, where are you going to get parts for an RB26DETT? Dealership ain't gonna stock it.
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He He, too much Irish blood and too much Guiness to be responding to things on Sat night :wink: . I’m certainly not knocking the Maxima, I was actually studying up to help my buddy install a Y-pipe on his 96. If only it was RWD, 190+ hp at the fronts w/o a limited slip is crappy. Some random transverse Volvo knowledge: they also have a transverse I6, even a TT version of that engine. When Volvo was designing the new generations they did a lot of frontal crash tests and analyzed the space left over in the engine compartment. They then designed an engine that would fit in the space left over and the result was the I4/5/6’s they are using now.
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Post by azn2nr »

BAC5.2 wrote:There are RB26's in S13's/14's in the states, your buddy won't be the first.
there are rb26's in s14 in the states but so far s13's have only gotten rb25's out of the gts-t. suposedly there are only three rb26s into s13's being attempted at this time one is my friends.
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Post by evolutionmovement »

Interesting. Too bad about parts availability (and long term questions), but those engines and drivetrains are amazing.

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Post by entirelyturbo »

The Suzuki Verona is the transverse inline-6.

Someone has successfully supplanted a VG30DET from an old 300ZX in a Maxima, while retaining the FWD layout. I saw it in SCC once. That, to me, would be a much more plausible way to make some noise with a Maxima.
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Post by azn2nr »

the maxima already has a vg30 in it already. that would me the same as puting a supra motor into a is300. essintialy the same motor just one is turbo. except for wireing the fairlady motor would be a bolt in affair
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Post by elkaboom »

Maybe I'm in the wrong, but aren't the skyline engines and drivetrains, like, ultra hard to find? If at all?
I don't know much about them beyond a few fact on the periphery, but factory Skylines were 100G cars when they were brand new, and even after they de-valued, parts were still crazy overpriced.
Who in the F#@& is gonna have access to that kinda hardware? I call BS.
Assuming these import tuner kids even had access to an importer with ties to a JDM importer (friend of a friend BS), it'd still be soo friggin costly theyre's no way they'd be able to affoard the rest of the car... no way.
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Post by dscoobydoo »

LMAO

shows how many people here are true generic car nuts. Too often people on boards don't know shit about any other platforms.

The rb26dett would be next to impossible to find extra parts for.
As for fitting it in a 95 maxima, well, with money anything is possible.

But STILLEN has a FI kit that would put 350 hp in the car. Me thinks that would be enough.

Hell, I was tuning my 96 maxima. Then I saw the Stillen kit for 3500.

Then I saw my legacy SS for 3000. Guess what I bought? ( Gee, I am here so that is a no brainer)

The handling on the maxima is pretty good. It actually has the capability to transplant a lot of good parts from other Nissan cars ( kind of like the subaru thing) Right now my 96 Max will beat my 93 SS only because it has a killer torque curve and pulls really well ( and I have some decent upgrades) but it is at it's peak power short of major FI.

Now the legacy, well, that is another story.
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Post by entirelyturbo »

azn2nr wrote:the maxima already has a vg30 in it already. that would me the same as puting a supra motor into a is300. essintialy the same motor just one is turbo. except for wireing the fairlady motor would be a bolt in affair
I'm no Nissan expert, but my understanding from reading up on the Maxima I mentioned was that it was quite a bit of work dropping the VG30DET into a FWD car, because it was originally intended for a RWD car. So it's not a plug-and-play affair obviously, but I'm sure an RB engine would be a whole lot harder...
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