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what little progress i have made.

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and some headlights i got about a year ago that i havent gotten around to yet
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Hey! Your car's like mine! It's a Winestone sport sedan with a non-turbo grill!

Huh, so the stock coolant lines fit the new IHI turbo? That's cool.

It's hard to see exactly what you did with the compressor inlet. Is that a really short piece of hose and a welded-up elbow? Did you modify the compressor housing at all?

You might want to get beads rolled into those pipes after you get them figured out. It'll help keep the couplers on when you run high boost.

I really hope you're joking about those headlight bulbs.
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heh heh heh. im not kidding about the bulbs. when i was first trying to put a cone filter on i went and bought a maf adaptor. when that didnt fit i went to return it and they would only let me trade so i got the light bulbs because thats all they had that was worth anything.

the pipes i actualy got form a local fabrication shop that has a cnc mandrel bender. their the only place in the state that has one and they dont usualy do stuff for cars but they said theyd make a exception for me. the guy i talked to was so nice, he stright up gave me the pipes in the pics. he showed me his wharehouse and said, "here take these and make sure the radius fits in the spaces" he kept trying to get me to take more but i wanted to be polite with his genorisity so i just took 2 u's and a 90.

the turbo inlet is similar to that of magicmike just gehtto style. i cut pieces out of 3 pipes and took them to my neighbor and he welded them up with bornze (he;s a sculptor and makes huge statues of the stuff).

one more thing. the car not only has a n/a grille it also comes with an n/a hood
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azn2nr wrote:im not kidding about the bulbs.
Don't put those bulbs in your car! Please. It's dangerous! They are terrible in every sense.
so i got the light bulbs because thats all they had that was worth anything.
They're not worth anything. The bulbs you have in your headlights already are 290857239457 times better.
the turbo inlet is similar to that of magicmike just gehtto style. i cut pieces out of 3 pipes and took them to my neighbor and he welded them up with bornze (he;s a sculptor and makes huge statues of the stuff).
Hmm, it seemed to look less restrictive than Mike's.
one more thing. the car not only has a n/a grille it also comes with an n/a hood
Awesome.
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i dont know. i actualy have one bulb similar to the pair in the pics in one headlight and a stock one in the other and to tell the truth the blue bulb is much better. it doesnt matter though because the headlights are pointed severely down so the visibilty sucks either way. im probaly gonna put a bunch of fog/driving lights in the gap on the bumper to solve the light problem.
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It's not better!

Your eyes may be tricked into thinking it is, but it's not. Just do a search for the word "blue" with me as the author and you should find plenty of posts where I explain in detail why that's the case.

The first thing you have to do is aim your lights correctly. It's stupid to try to do anything to improve a headlight that you haven't even aimed yet. Aim is, like, the most important thing.

Neither fog lights nor driving lights can improve your low beams, which are the lights you use most. Aim your lights, put good bulbs in (not this trash! please!), and put in a heavy-duty wiring harness and your lights will be very good.
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k, i wont put in the lights but there is no way to reaim my lights. ive already tried and for some reason it doesent work. the main reason why the lights are pointing so low is because of the wreck i got in a long while back. ill try to take a good pic illustrating this.

i think fogs will help a little because turning on highbeams is still worse than stock.

will heavy duty harnesses really make that much of a difference?
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azn2nr wrote:k, i wont put in the lights
Thank you. That's very wise.
but there is no way to reaim my lights. ive already tried and for some reason it doesent work.
You turn the outboard aimers counterclockwise and the beam doesn't move at all?

In that case, either the aimers are broken or that portion of the chassis hasn't been properly straightened out after the accident.

If the aimers are broken, you need to replace the headlights.

If it's the bent chassis that's at fault, you have two options. One, of course, is to straighten it back out. The other option may be easier though -- you can try shimming the headlight's mounting fasteners with 6mm washers to get them to an aimable position.
i think fogs will help a little because turning on highbeams is still worse than stock.
Nope, they won't.

Fog lights cannot be used as replacements for low beams. They're completely different. In fact, most of the time when people who don't know better turn their fog lights on, they're actually simultaneously increasing glare to others and reducing their ability to see.

High beams can't substitute for low beams either, irrespective of how they're aimed.

Headlights are a lot more complicated than you understand. They're more complicated than I understand, and I've spent the better part of a decade researching them. Believe me: you need to fix your headlights.
will heavy duty harnesses really make that much of a difference?
Yes. They will.

But nothing will give you usable headlight performance until you can aim your lights correctly.
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in this pic you can see how close the fans are to the pulleys and belts. you can also see the dimple in the fan shroud where it hit the pulley nut.
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this pic shows the similar.
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this pic shows how the headlight hangs lower than the corner light which does not sit flush with the fender.
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this pic shows where i want to mount the driving lights. it also shows the gap between the bumper and the grille and lights.
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in the above if you look at the metal piece that the radatior/grille and lights are attached to you will see that its bent foreward
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here if you look at the same piece of metal you can see where the paint is chiped where it was twisted durring the wreck and retwisted when it was repaired.
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I see what you're saying. You might be able to shim those lights... I don't know.

You understand, right, that driving lights are auxiliary high beams?
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yeah the chasis wasnt strightned properly after the accident as you can see. im not gonna get it fixed properly , stuborn as that sounds , because to do so it will cost more than the car itself is worth or was ever worth.
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i understand about the driving lights.

ill try to shim them but i doubt it will work.
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Well, you basically need the lower part of the light to stick out forwards a little, right? I think there's only one fastener on the bottom part -- a stud on the outboard side. The stud's kind of short, though, so you might be right that a washer wouldn't work. But maybe you could cut the stud off with a Dremel and then epoxy a longer one -- or even just a bolt, since the head could act as a shim -- in its place.
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I like to bash things when they don't go my way, might help your radiator support. :twisted:
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Yeah, that's not a bad idea. Just be careful because there might be airbag sensors around there.

A really long prybar can also help to gently reshape the headlight bucket.
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Geez Jason, you should have known better than to tease Vikash with those lights. As soon as I saw the pic, I knew where this thread was headed. I think we need to add that to the Site Suggestions; don't even think about asking about the HID-look-alike bulbs, Vikash will hurt you. Literally. Zealot.
He's right, though, I try to talk people out of them all the time, and I ask people to compare, as well. I seriously, as well as Vikash, would suggest Sylvania X-tra visions. They work well, period.
Good job on your FMIC, though, looks like you'll have some fun with that.
Would you consider putting some NOS sprayers around it to ice that puppy over while you're driving? That sick WRX from MN, I think, had those.. looked pretty sweet, and I heard it peformed alright, too. check into something like that while you've got all this apart. Hide it as best you can, too.. FMs are popular, if you get my drift.
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i thought of getting it powdered black but im not going to. im not woried about people pulling up next to me seeing anything.

the nos sprayers do have a minimal effect but the powergains are mostly from where the fumes are sucked in thorugh the intake. for this same reason co2 sprayers kill performance becasue there is a lack of oxygen for the intake. ill probaly use some rice water sprayers (complete with led's) to cool it down if needed.
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Nice Jason. The FMIC install looks tight, it should look real good.

What size core is that? It's so long and skinny....at least that's what she said.
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azn2nr wrote:the nos sprayers do have a minimal effect but the powergains are mostly from where the fumes are sucked in thorugh the intake. for this same reason co2 sprayers kill performance becasue there is a lack of oxygen for the intake. ill probaly use some rice water sprayers (complete with led's) to cool it down if needed.
You are sadly mistaken. CryO2 and NX sprayers offer significant gains. NX set up their N-Tercooler kit for their Project Turbo Civic, and added 52whp to the baseline.

CryO2 setups increase intercooler efficiency up to 50%.

Sucking the NX into the intake, isn't going to boost performance. Nitrous works mostly by supercooling the air, thus making it more dense, requiring more fuel, and making more power. It doesn't EXPLODE in the combustion chamber.
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nitrous does in fact "explode" in the combustion chamber. The oxygen dissociates from the nitrogen, then explodes when combined with gasoline and a spark or enough heat. Gasoline won't explode all by itself and niether will oxygen , but together they certainly do.


It is the extra oxygen that has the greater power effect but it does also cool the charge, as does any gas allowed to expand from the compressed state. dual effect, more oxygen and more density thus you can burn more gas.

The CO2 systems spray onto the intercooler on the outside, so no power comes from the CO2 per se, just the cooling effect on the intercooler making more dense air.
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what i said about the no2 is just what makes sense. espcialy when riding in a couple of evos that had co2 cooled front mounts and feeling the detrement of the co2 in the intake.
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professor wrote:The CO2 systems spray onto the intercooler on the outside, so no power comes from the CO2 per se, just the cooling effect on the intercooler making more dense air.
I don't see how it can possibly be a good idea to spray CO2 so close to the air intake, if it gets sucked inot the intake it will definitely cancel out any gains from cooling the IC...
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Professor - The NX N-Tercooler sprayer also sprays on the outside of the IC to cool it.

I think I didn't explain what I was saying about the injestion of Nitrous. If sprayed on the IC, ingesting it through the intake won't really do anything performance wise.

Same goes for CO2. The only time you would really ingest it, would be while stopped.

At 6k, at a standstill, while spraying CO2, anything that happens to fog around the car, and get injested won't make much difference once you let out the clutch. Once moving, any fog will be blown aft of the intake.

Like I said, NX saw 52whp from their Nitrous cooler on a dyno. DEI measured a 50% IC Efficiency increase with CO2.

Don't go into it expecting the car to kick you in the ass once you spray down the IC. It won't. It'll just feel stronger, like taking off on a cold morning instead of trying to take off after sitting in traffic at LAX.
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OK that makes sense.

But what doesn't make sense is spraying the outside of the intercooler with NOS. Unless simplicity is the goal (one bottle). Nitrous is way expensive compared to CO2 for just brute cooling.

I'd certainly prefer to keep the inert cold stuff on the outside of the intercooler, and the potent oxidizer on the inside of the engine. A cloud of nitrous gas around the engine could lead to a big surprise.

Speaking of nitrous, does anyone remember the Buzz Bomb pipe ??? It cooled the "charge" from, ahem, certain lit tobacco products with a blast of nitrous from a cartridge. If you coughed, nitrous would back-feed into the bowl and it would blow up in your face. Heaven or hell, I'll tell you. Perhaps I'm dating myself here a bit ?
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don't member that... but a 4 foot bong packed with snow gives a hint similar to menthol.... :shock:
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