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Suby - a college degree is more important than what it is. The supervisor of manufacturing at my last place had a degree in psychology of all things. There were planty of other people with degrees that don't match their fields. My old boss at Sylvania had a business degree with a minor in psychology and he was head of Quality. So it's more just a flawed way of telling an employer that you can probably put some effort into things, stick with it, and might be more educated than average. That's the system, and right or wrong, there's no way around it.

What I was saying about kids was more an age related thing. Having them when you're older and had a chance to do stuff already is the time to do it. Though probably not too much later as some of the 'baby from the last egg left' older parents I see at the parks with my nephew are rediculously overprotective and only further contribute to the sissification of America by raising more kids afraid of everything. Having a kid too young takes a lot of opportunity away that most don't get back since they usually end up less educated (there's that college degree thing again) and combined with more expenses they never get enough money to get ahead of the curve. I imagine this leads to more likelyhood of divorce, too as the stress must be killer. My sister's lucky her and her fiance (who luckily stuck around) can live rent free and still go to school, but the amount of work is rediculous.

Steve

subyluvr2212 wrote:Josh, lemme ask you this: Can college degrees spoil and go bad? What I mean by that is, have you seen any examples of someone who finishes college, doesn't go chasing after their dream jobs but instead just hangs around and has some more fun as a young adult, then decides to settle down, get a job related to their college education, then they can't because they waited too long, or something to that effect?

I agree with what's been said for the most part..... The degree itself doesn't really ever go "bad" per-say. However, depending on where you want to go and do really has a lot to do with it. If I am a manager looking to hire someone and see someone that has a two year lapse from college to now....and had jobs working at burger king or such...or nothing.....I'd be a little wary of he or she's motivation.

There is nothing wrong with having a job and being able to have fun, travel, etc. Don't think because you have a job you can't do that stuff. Actually, you can typically do it more readily if you're young and don't have a lot of expenses. Don't expect to make beaucoup bucks out of college and have lots of vacation. You will get some however.

Like I said....college is just a ticket in the door. Like a movie theater stub....once they rip it.....and you start getting experience.....it's not much more then a reminder that you paid for your "movie" again though.....if you don't have that stub to get back in the movie....ie no college......you're severely limiting your opportunities for advancement.

Like Padishar Creel mentioned......learning/college is a lifetime commitment. Some people yearn for knowledge more then others, and some want something besides book knowledge, street smarts, or whatever.....different strokes for different folks.

Bottom line is don't let yourself stagnate. I had some friends in HS that wanted to take a year off of school....I knew myself too well.....if I did that....I'd be screwin myself and making it that much harder to get back into things.

anyway.....I can ramble on about this.....but I won't.

Like Padishar Creel mentioned......learning/college is a lifetime commitment. Some people yearn for knowledge more then others, and some want something besides book knowledge, street smarts, or whatever.....different strokes for different folks

Josh, you can call me Scott if you like. I rue the day I picked my user name. At the time it seemed like a good memory device, now, it bugs me. If I had it to do over again I would name myself simply "Creel" or "Padishar".

Scott - I wish they let me live at this lighthouse for free - the adjacent houses are over a million a piece. The lighthouse itself is automated and no longer has a living quarters. It's unique in that it's a 100' 6' diam. iron tower with a pyramidal scaffolding structure (something like the Eiffel Tower, but round pipe) and the light platform at the top.

Steve

Padishar Creel wrote: I rue the day I picked my user name. At the time it seemed like a good memory device, now, it bugs me. If I had it to do over again I would name myself simply "Creel" or "Padishar".

Have an admin change your nick. I used to be mk750, but changed to mTk, all your posts etc.. will be changed to your new name.

MK

Scott, your input is just as valuable as Josh's. If I post something, I value everyone's input, if I just want one person's input, I'll PM them.

I really don't have concrete plans other than the fact that I want my career to be somewhat automotive-related. I don't wanna be fixing 84 Buick Centuries at a mom-n-pop shop for $10/hr, but I wouldn't mind maybe toying around with race cars, or something to that effect.

Ultimately, I would love to write for an automotive magazine, and I'm starting to really think about Grassroots Motorsports Magazine, which I believe to be based out of FL. If my Journalism major with engineering minor goes as planned, I might pursue a career there or something else, I dunno.

But honestly, I'm tired of school. I've been in school for 13 years now, and someone as impatient as I am loses their focus after doing for something for 13 years without seeing any immediate benefit, even with the obvious future benefits.

I've been told I should take a break from school for a while, and then come back later when I'm ready. But my grandparents are getting old (old enough to start worrying me a bit) and they won't be around to support me forever while I find myself. Of the group of friends that I know at college, I am by far the farthest ahead, almost lined up to graduate on a 4-year schedule, and I'm still getting pressure from the grandparents to hurry it up, not a whole bunch, but enough to stress me out a little bit.

<---27yo hedonist

I drank a fifth to myself on saturday, and made-out with like 7 women...

haha, me too!

Suby - GRM is in FL. The PO Box is Ormond Beach. Why not see if they're looking for interns or can at least give you an idea of a next step or whatever? It's a small but expanding magazine - I'd bet they'll be really friendly and helpful.

www.grmotorsports.com

Steve

Scott, your input is just as valuable as Josh's. If I post something, I value everyone's input, if I just want one person's input, I'll PM them.

Cool

I really don't have concrete plans other than the fact that I want my career to be somewhat automotive-related. I don't wanna be fixing 84 Buick Centuries at a mom-n-pop shop for $10/hr, but I wouldn't mind maybe toying around with race cars, or something to that effect.

I can definitely relate to that. I give advice I know to be true even if I don't always follow it myself. Continuing education isn't easy to do. I have a desire to continue learning myself but the resources aren't there at the moment and I'm kind of in-between things too.

When I graduated from school I was crispy. I didn't read a book for quite some time afterwards. The last thing I wanted to do was try and stuff more information in my cranium but after a little rest and time my brain primed itself up again. In truth, school was a struggle for me financially and otherwise because I really didn't have any support at all. College was never a plan for me coming from a working class upbringing, a hope perhaps, but not a plan. Learning was just not stressed so when I got into school and started I was hungry to learn. I had to try and change my outlook to one that made learning a primary issue, even though I've always been a curious sort of person. Neither one of my parents or any of my siblings went to college and all of the men were in the military. I broke the mold I guess. I won't digress too much on that though. Anyway, maybe it's just me but after I rested up my mind was even more hungry than before. I guess what I'm saying is that you should take a break, get some rest and see what happens. It's funny I'm saying this because what I would like to do most is get a boat and sail around writing books, loving women, drinking wine and making glorious music.

Padishar Creel wrote:

Like Padishar Creel mentioned......learning/college is a lifetime commitment. Some people yearn for knowledge more then others, and some want something besides book knowledge, street smarts, or whatever.....different strokes for different folks

Josh, you can call me Scott if you like. I rue the day I picked my user name. At the time it seemed like a good memory device, now, it bugs me. If I had it to do over again I would name myself simply "Creel" or "Padishar".

Hey Scott......I can take care of that name change thing for ya

evolutionmovement wrote:Suby - GRM is in FL. The PO Box is Ormond Beach. Why not see if they're looking for interns or can at least give you an idea of a next step or whatever? It's a small but expanding magazine - I'd bet they'll be really friendly and helpful.

www.grmotorsports.com

Steve

Cool, thanks Steve. I probably should have investigated that anyway, but I'll send em a written letter (to be more professional) in regards to that.

It's funny I'm saying this because what I would like to do most is get a boat and sail around writing books, loving women, drinking wine and making glorious music.

The same here, but driving (I get sea sick). Sounds much like Hemmingway - I hope you don't end up the same way!

Steve