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intercooler pump

Posted: Wed May 01, 2002 8:59 am
by Doug Hancock
How much does a standard RS liberty intercooler pump flow. I wish to up
grade to a higher flowing pump.


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intercooler pump

Posted: Wed May 01, 2002 9:29 am
by Ian Shastko
the biger the better in this case. look for a Surflo RV type pump. but make
sure its designed for contiual use. I had a water/air intercooler setup and
there is alot of info in the achives if you look under water /air inter
cooler orwater pump.


>From: "Doug Hancock" <Doug_hancock@optusnet.com.au>
>Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
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>Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] intercooler pump
>Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 22:50:12 +1000
>
>
>How much does a standard RS liberty intercooler pump flow. I wish to up
>grade to a higher flowing pump.
>




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intercooler pump

Posted: Thu May 02, 2002 2:49 am
by rodeddy
make sure you get as folw rate that will not be too much. Otherwise
you will not get the full heat exchange from the front radiator.
Not enough flow is bad as is too much.
I have an mrt larger front intercooler radiator and std pump, this
works excellent. Contact MRT and they may be able to help, i know
they sell a high flow pump if this si what you want.
The RS pump is a 2 speed unit, when the throttle gets to 80% open it
goes into high flow mode. Unless your doing track work the std pump
will flow enough, to help this better disperce heat go the larger
intercooler radiator.... also the water/coolant ratio will make a
difference as water obsorbs heat better than coolant.
cheers, Rod

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Doug Hancock" <Doug_hancock@o...>
wrote:
>
> How much does a standard RS liberty intercooler pump flow. I wish
to up
> grade to a higher flowing pump.


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intercooler pump

Posted: Thu May 02, 2002 7:09 am
by Doug Hancock
I wish to get into track work later on. So If I'm upgrading it may as well
be for that. I will get MRT's radiator but I think that $400 AUD is a bit to
excessive. I was thinking of an irrigation pump but this may be the same
price. Is the standard pmup 2 speed or is there a control unit that does
this.

-----Original Message-----
From: rodeddy [mailto:melrod@optusnet.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, 2 May 2002 4:48 PM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: intercooler pump


make sure you get as folw rate that will not be too much. Otherwise
you will not get the full heat exchange from the front radiator.
Not enough flow is bad as is too much.
I have an mrt larger front intercooler radiator and std pump, this
works excellent. Contact MRT and they may be able to help, i know
they sell a high flow pump if this si what you want.
The RS pump is a 2 speed unit, when the throttle gets to 80% open it
goes into high flow mode. Unless your doing track work the std pump
will flow enough, to help this better disperce heat go the larger
intercooler radiator.... also the water/coolant ratio will make a
difference as water obsorbs heat better than coolant.
cheers, Rod

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Doug Hancock" <Doug_hancock@o...>
wrote:
>
> How much does a standard RS liberty intercooler pump flow. I wish
to up
> grade to a higher flowing pump.



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intercooler pump

Posted: Fri May 03, 2002 1:29 am
by rodeddy
if you are going the trackwork you may need both, the larger
intercooler radiator also. It's nice to be able to flow more cooling
water but if the heat exchager is not big enough it won't work.
the pump speed is controlled by the ecu and solenoid/relays (affixed
to the rear of the o/s/f suspension tower in the engine bay)
The pump operates normally at 28watts, 15l /min, and at 50watts when
on high speed (throttle open 80% or more).
Maybe there is someway to overide the ecu and rig up a switch to have
the pump go into high mode when you want. You would need to speak to
an auto electrician. At least with the switch you could run normal
when not racing, will probably make your pump last longer.
The whole system only holds 1.9 litres of water that's why the larger
radiator helps also, i think it increase it to 2.2 litres.. cannot
remember.
cheers, Rod

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Doug Hancock" <Doug_hancock@o...>
wrote:
> I wish to get into track work later on. So If I'm upgrading it may
as well
> be for that. I will get MRT's radiator but I think that $400 AUD is
a bit to
> excessive. I was thinking of an irrigation pump but this may be the
same
> price. Is the standard pmup 2 speed or is there a control unit that
does
> this.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rodeddy [mailto:melrod@o...]
> Sent: Thursday, 2 May 2002 4:48 PM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: intercooler pump
>
>
> make sure you get as folw rate that will not be too much. Otherwise
> you will not get the full heat exchange from the front radiator.
> Not enough flow is bad as is too much.
> I have an mrt larger front intercooler radiator and std pump, this
> works excellent. Contact MRT and they may be able to help, i know
> they sell a high flow pump if this si what you want.
> The RS pump is a 2 speed unit, when the throttle gets to 80% open it
> goes into high flow mode. Unless your doing track work the std pump
> will flow enough, to help this better disperce heat go the larger
> intercooler radiator.... also the water/coolant ratio will make a
> difference as water obsorbs heat better than coolant.
> cheers, Rod
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Doug Hancock" <Doug_hancock@o...>
> wrote:
> >
> > How much does a standard RS liberty intercooler pump flow. I wish
> to up
> > grade to a higher flowing pump.
>
>
>
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intercooler pump

Posted: Sun May 05, 2002 7:49 am
by Doug Hancock
I was going to update the radiator but thought of this idea. I would like to
here som sugestions. Every body knows that the Air to water unit is good
when at the lights because it is always being cooled but not the best at the
track. I was thincking of adding an Air to Air unit at the front but retain
the Air to water unit as well. What does every body think of this idea. Yes
it will be a complex task. What I really want to know is it going to work.

-----Original Message-----
From: rodeddy [mailto:melrod@optusnet.com.au]
Sent: Friday, 3 May 2002 3:19 PM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: intercooler pump

if you are going the trackwork you may need both, the larger
intercooler radiator also. It's nice to be able to flow more cooling
water but if the heat exchager is not big enough it won't work.
the pump speed is controlled by the ecu and solenoid/relays (affixed
to the rear of the o/s/f suspension tower in the engine bay)
The pump operates normally at 28watts, 15l /min, and at 50watts when
on high speed (throttle open 80% or more).
Maybe there is someway to overide the ecu and rig up a switch to have
the pump go into high mode when you want. You would need to speak to
an auto electrician. At least with the switch you could run normal
when not racing, will probably make your pump last longer.
The whole system only holds 1.9 litres of water that's why the larger
radiator helps also, i think it increase it to 2.2 litres.. cannot
remember.
cheers, Rod

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Doug Hancock" <Doug_hancock@o...>
wrote:
> I wish to get into track work later on. So If I'm upgrading it may
as well
> be for that. I will get MRT's radiator but I think that $400 AUD is
a bit to
> excessive. I was thinking of an irrigation pump but this may be the
same
> price. Is the standard pmup 2 speed or is there a control unit that
does
> this.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rodeddy [mailto:melrod@o...]
> Sent: Thursday, 2 May 2002 4:48 PM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: intercooler pump
>
>
> make sure you get as folw rate that will not be too much. Otherwise
> you will not get the full heat exchange from the front radiator.
> Not enough flow is bad as is too much.
> I have an mrt larger front intercooler radiator and std pump, this
> works excellent. Contact MRT and they may be able to help, i know
> they sell a high flow pump if this si what you want.
> The RS pump is a 2 speed unit, when the throttle gets to 80% open it
> goes into high flow mode. Unless your doing track work the std pump
> will flow enough, to help this better disperce heat go the larger
> intercooler radiator.... also the water/coolant ratio will make a
> difference as water obsorbs heat better than coolant.
> cheers, Rod
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Doug Hancock" <Doug_hancock@o...>
> wrote:
> >
> > How much does a standard RS liberty intercooler pump flow. I wish
> to up
> > grade to a higher flowing pump.
>
>
>
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intercooler pump

Posted: Sun May 05, 2002 11:39 pm
by rodeddy
Doug,
i would send an email to Ben at MRT about this topic. I'm sure he
used to do trackwork with his RS, sold it ages ago, and remember him
telling me that with the larger front intercooler he never suffered
from heatsoak during any racing....
having 2 intercooler systems sounds too involved.. and costly.
Upgrade the std one and never have a problem, looks std and will be
more reliable..
cheers, Rod.. in oz.

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Doug Hancock" <Doug_hancock@o...>
wrote:
> I was going to update the radiator but thought of this idea. I
would like to
> here som sugestions. Every body knows that the Air to water unit is
good
> when at the lights because it is always being cooled but not the
best at the
> track. I was thincking of adding an Air to Air unit at the front
but retain
> the Air to water unit as well. What does every body think of this
idea. Yes
> it will be a complex task. What I really want to know is it going
to work.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rodeddy [mailto:melrod@o...]
> Sent: Friday, 3 May 2002 3:19 PM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: intercooler pump
>
> if you are going the trackwork you may need both, the larger
> intercooler radiator also. It's nice to be able to flow more
cooling
> water but if the heat exchager is not big enough it won't work.
> the pump speed is controlled by the ecu and solenoid/relays (affixed
> to the rear of the o/s/f suspension tower in the engine bay)
> The pump operates normally at 28watts, 15l /min, and at 50watts when
> on high speed (throttle open 80% or more).
> Maybe there is someway to overide the ecu and rig up a switch to
have
> the pump go into high mode when you want. You would need to speak
to
> an auto electrician. At least with the switch you could run normal
> when not racing, will probably make your pump last longer.
> The whole system only holds 1.9 litres of water that's why the
larger
> radiator helps also, i think it increase it to 2.2 litres.. cannot
> remember.
> cheers, Rod
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Doug Hancock" <Doug_hancock@o...>
> wrote:
> > I wish to get into track work later on. So If I'm upgrading it may
> as well
> > be for that. I will get MRT's radiator but I think that $400 AUD
is
> a bit to
> > excessive. I was thinking of an irrigation pump but this may be
the
> same
> > price. Is the standard pmup 2 speed or is there a control unit
that
> does
> > this.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rodeddy [mailto:melrod@o...]
> > Sent: Thursday, 2 May 2002 4:48 PM
> > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: intercooler pump
> >
> >
> > make sure you get as folw rate that will not be too much.
Otherwise
> > you will not get the full heat exchange from the front radiator.
> > Not enough flow is bad as is too much.
> > I have an mrt larger front intercooler radiator and std pump, this
> > works excellent. Contact MRT and they may be able to help, i know
> > they sell a high flow pump if this si what you want.
> > The RS pump is a 2 speed unit, when the throttle gets to 80% open
it
> > goes into high flow mode. Unless your doing track work the std
pump
> > will flow enough, to help this better disperce heat go the larger
> > intercooler radiator.... also the water/coolant ratio will make a
> > difference as water obsorbs heat better than coolant.
> > cheers, Rod
> >
> > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Doug Hancock" <Doug_hancock@o...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > How much does a standard RS liberty intercooler pump flow. I
wish
> > to up
> > > grade to a higher flowing pump.
> >
> >
> >
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