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[peckers_nz]

are there any aussie legacy/liberty rs owners out there??


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[georgerbyrne]

I'm in Australia (in Brisbane Queensland)
But i don't drive a liberty RS. Just a modified Liberty that's about
to have a HUGE turbo attached to it Should be a bit of fun!
Try

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/libertyrsturbo/

There are a couple of us from Aus. and NZ on there!

Thanks, George.

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[Doug Hancock]

Yeh heaps why.

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[Rod]

yes, Rod in oz... '92 RS

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[wendy c]

Hey there Rod, whats the story with AUS you dont seem
to have very many jap muscle cars over there and what
you have is very expensive, has anyone explored the
possiblity of bringing them in from japan, or from
over here, they must be hard to register or surely
someone would have done it already.. any clues?
Andy.


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[Toby Corkindale]

To bring them over from Japan (or elsewhere), you must have been living in
that country AND owning the car in that country, for at least nine months.
(I think thats the correct minimum time?)

On top of that, you won't find any insurance company in the land who will
insure you... at least, not for anything under about half the cost of the
car, per year.

And for some annoying reason, the car companies don't import the hi-po
models themselves. Grr.

Toby

On Mon, 13 May 2002, wendy c wrote:

> Hey there Rod, whats the story with AUS you dont seem
> to have very many jap muscle cars over there and what
> you have is very expensive, has anyone explored the
> possiblity of bringing them in from japan, or from
> over here, they must be hard to register or surely
> someone would have done it already.. any clues?
> Andy.
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[Doug Hancock]

You also can't bring over a car that was sold on the domestic market. Ie WRX
must have owned it in another contry. Our laws are very strict. It has to be
to keep the local market develop. F&*k the law I say.

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From: Toby Corkindale [mailto:tjcorkin@sa.pracom.com.au]
Sent: Monday, 13 May 2002 5:49 PM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] aussie rs owners

To bring them over from Japan (or elsewhere), you must have been living in
that country AND owning the car in that country, for at least nine months.
(I think thats the correct minimum time?)

On top of that, you won't find any insurance company in the land who will
insure you... at least, not for anything under about half the cost of the
car, per year.

And for some annoying reason, the car companies don't import the hi-po
models themselves. Grr.

Toby

On Mon, 13 May 2002, wendy c wrote:

> Hey there Rod, whats the story with AUS you dont seem
> to have very many jap muscle cars over there and what
> you have is very expensive, has anyone explored the
> possiblity of bringing them in from japan, or from
> over here, they must be hard to register or surely
> someone would have done it already.. any clues?
> Andy.
>



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[Rod]

well i think the other guys covered it all. We are getting more Jap imports lately.... insurance a real hassle,,,and cost.
cheers, Rod...... in oz

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Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] aussie rs owners

Hey there Rod, whats the story with AUS you dont seem
to have very many jap muscle cars over there and what
you have is very expensive, has anyone explored the
possiblity of bringing them in from japan, or from
over here, they must be hard to register or surely
someone would have done it already.. any clues?
Andy.


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> yes, Rod in oz... '92 RS
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[Toby Corkindale]

Although, when i was in Melbourne a couple of weeks ago, I saw a dark blue
Subaru Legacy GT driving around.

It was definately badged as "Legacy GT 4WD" or something like that on the
backk. It was a wagon and looked similar to mine, but i think it had
different door handles and skirting, plus a roofrack.. and it was looking a
bit worse for wear.

Still, someone must have imported it.. even though an equivelent was sold
here. Although maybe the name change fooled the government

-Toby

On Mon, 13 May 2002, Doug Hancock wrote:

> You also can't bring over a car that was sold on the domestic market. Ie WRX
> must have owned it in another contry. Our laws are very strict. It has to be
> to keep the local market develop. F&*k the law I say.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Toby Corkindale [mailto:tjcorkin@sa.pracom.com.au]
> Sent: Monday, 13 May 2002 5:49 PM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] aussie rs owners
>
> To bring them over from Japan (or elsewhere), you must have been living in
> that country AND owning the car in that country, for at least nine months.
> (I think thats the correct minimum time?)
>
> On top of that, you won't find any insurance company in the land who will
> insure you... at least, not for anything under about half the cost of the
> car, per year.
>
> And for some annoying reason, the car companies don't import the hi-po
> models themselves. Grr.
>
> Toby
>
> On Mon, 13 May 2002, wendy c wrote:
>
> > Hey there Rod, whats the story with AUS you dont seem
> > to have very many jap muscle cars over there and what
> > you have is very expensive, has anyone explored the
> > possiblity of bringing them in from japan, or from
> > over here, they must be hard to register or surely
> > someone would have done it already.. any clues?
> > Andy.
> >
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[Nick Robinson]

This is my understanding of the situation, although there's probably a
lot more to it than this. Apologies if I've repeated anything from other
posts.

Unlike NZ where 2nd hand Jap imports are everywhere, we have a car
manufacturing industry to protect, so the govt makes it very expensive
and tricky to import such cars, because they reduce new car sales and
therefore jobs in many manufacturing industries.

The low volume imports law used to be basically, if it's already sold
here, you can't import it. That meant you couldn't import a late 90's
twin turbo Legacy because that vinatge of Liberty was already sold here,
albeit in non-turbo form. That also explains why we can get Silvias,
Skylines and Supras etc because certain models were not sold here. What
I don't understand is why there are so many Toyota Surfs around, when
they are essentially the same as Hiluxes etc.

The other way to do it was if you lived in Japan or NZ for 3 months or
more, you could then bring one back as a personal import but it was
still very exxy. Some people used to spend 3 months of every year in
Japan and then bring back container loads of cars, so they changed it to
a longer period - 9 months sounds about right Toby.

Anyway, that's all history because we now have SEVS - Specialist and
Enthusiasts Vehicle Scheme, which I believe is designed to placate
manufacturers, retailers and consumers alike. It's very complex but the
way I understand it is they have now made an avenue for more of these
desirable imports to brought in, but they've tightened up the rules on
who can import them. Look here if you're interested:
http://www.dotars.gov.au/land/Imports_Certif/sevs.htm

I've been told it boils down to the only people it will be worthwhile
for is the large impporter/dealer networks, who incidentally were the
ones getting mighty pissed off about the no of grey imports eating into
their sales. It begs the question then, if all the smaller competition
is squeezed out, will they bother?

Nick
93 RS Wagon - in Oz

wendy c wrote:
>
> Hey there Rod, whats the story with AUS you dont seem
> to have very many jap muscle cars over there and what
> you have is very expensive, has anyone explored the
> possiblity of bringing them in from japan, or from
> over here, they must be hard to register or surely
> someone would have done it already.. any clues?
> Andy.
>
> --- Rod <melrod@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > yes, Rod in oz... '92 RS
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[Nick Robinson]

Yeah, there are quite a few of them around, particularly in Eastern
States. I was looking at one in Sydney before I found my Aust delivered
one. Most of them are auto, have a smaller but quicker-spooling turbo
and usually the nice integrated roof racks. Cost of insurance was what
stopped me buying it, and it's interior was a bit more low-rent than
Aust model, and there was no cruise or ABS.

It had a yellow compliance plate which I think means it was a personal
import - possibly brought in under the 3 month rule with a whole batch.
The guy who was selling it got from a yard on Paramatta Rd where he said
there were several to choose from - his brother even had an identical
one!

I think the only other type of compliance plate is green, which
indicates low volume import. It could be the other way around though.

Nick

Toby Corkindale wrote:
>
> Although, when i was in Melbourne a couple of weeks ago, I saw a dark
> blue
> Subaru Legacy GT driving around.
>
> It was definately badged as "Legacy GT 4WD" or something like that on
> the
> backk. It was a wagon and looked similar to mine, but i think it had
> different door handles and skirting, plus a roofrack.. and it was
> looking a
> bit worse for wear.
>
> Still, someone must have imported it.. even though an equivelent was
> sold
> here. Although maybe the name change fooled the government
>
> -Toby
>
> On Mon, 13 May 2002, Doug Hancock wrote:
>
> > You also can't bring over a car that was sold on the domestic
> market. Ie WRX
> > must have owned it in another contry. Our laws are very strict. It
> has to be
> > to keep the local market develop. F&*k the law I say.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Toby Corkindale [mailto:tjcorkin@sa.pracom.com.au]
> > Sent: Monday, 13 May 2002 5:49 PM
> > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] aussie rs owners
> >
> > To bring them over from Japan (or elsewhere), you must have been
> living in
> > that country AND owning the car in that country, for at least nine
> months.
> > (I think thats the correct minimum time?)
> >
> > On top of that, you won't find any insurance company in the land who
> will
> > insure you... at least, not for anything under about half the cost
> of the
> > car, per year.
> >
> > And for some annoying reason, the car companies don't import the
> hi-po
> > models themselves. Grr.
> >
> > Toby
> >
> > On Mon, 13 May 2002, wendy c wrote:
> >
> > > Hey there Rod, whats the story with AUS you dont seem
> > > to have very many jap muscle cars over there and what
> > > you have is very expensive, has anyone explored the
> > > possiblity of bringing them in from japan, or from
> > > over here, they must be hard to register or surely
> > > someone would have done it already.. any clues?
> > > Andy.
> > >
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[Doug Hancock]

Did we get the series one rs liberty. If not they are easy to import. I also
am starting to see some series one.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, 14 May 2002 10:50 AM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
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Although, when i was in Melbourne a couple of weeks ago, I saw a dark blue
Subaru Legacy GT driving around.

It was definately badged as "Legacy GT 4WD" or something like that on the
backk. It was a wagon and looked similar to mine, but i think it had
different door handles and skirting, plus a roofrack.. and it was looking a
bit worse for wear.

Still, someone must have imported it.. even though an equivelent was sold
here. Although maybe the name change fooled the government

-Toby

On Mon, 13 May 2002, Doug Hancock wrote:

> You also can't bring over a car that was sold on the domestic market. Ie
WRX
> must have owned it in another contry. Our laws are very strict. It has to
be
> to keep the local market develop. F&*k the law I say.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Toby Corkindale [mailto:tjcorkin@sa.pracom.com.au]
> Sent: Monday, 13 May 2002 5:49 PM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] aussie rs owners
>
> To bring them over from Japan (or elsewhere), you must have been living in
> that country AND owning the car in that country, for at least nine months.
> (I think thats the correct minimum time?)
>
> On top of that, you won't find any insurance company in the land who will
> insure you... at least, not for anything under about half the cost of the
> car, per year.
>
> And for some annoying reason, the car companies don't import the hi-po
> models themselves. Grr.
>
> Toby
>
> On Mon, 13 May 2002, wendy c wrote:
>
> > Hey there Rod, whats the story with AUS you dont seem
> > to have very many jap muscle cars over there and what
> > you have is very expensive, has anyone explored the
> > possiblity of bringing them in from japan, or from
> > over here, they must be hard to register or surely
> > someone would have done it already.. any clues?
> > Andy.
> >
>
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[Doug Hancock]

Exactly about the surf. There just a 4 runner. Who cares if it had a
different motor. Turbo liberties stopped comingf here in 94 and have just
started again. I have seen some series three's for sale and was thinking
about it.

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Sent: Tuesday, 14 May 2002 12:15 PM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] aussie rs owners

This is my understanding of the situation, although there's probably a
lot more to it than this. Apologies if I've repeated anything from other
posts.

Unlike NZ where 2nd hand Jap imports are everywhere, we have a car
manufacturing industry to protect, so the govt makes it very expensive
and tricky to import such cars, because they reduce new car sales and
therefore jobs in many manufacturing industries.

The low volume imports law used to be basically, if it's already sold
here, you can't import it. That meant you couldn't import a late 90's
twin turbo Legacy because that vinatge of Liberty was already sold here,
albeit in non-turbo form. That also explains why we can get Silvias,
Skylines and Supras etc because certain models were not sold here. What
I don't understand is why there are so many Toyota Surfs around, when
they are essentially the same as Hiluxes etc.

The other way to do it was if you lived in Japan or NZ for 3 months or
more, you could then bring one back as a personal import but it was
still very exxy. Some people used to spend 3 months of every year in
Japan and then bring back container loads of cars, so they changed it to
a longer period - 9 months sounds about right Toby.

Anyway, that's all history because we now have SEVS - Specialist and
Enthusiasts Vehicle Scheme, which I believe is designed to placate
manufacturers, retailers and consumers alike. It's very complex but the
way I understand it is they have now made an avenue for more of these
desirable imports to brought in, but they've tightened up the rules on
who can import them. Look here if you're interested:
http://www.dotars.gov.au/land/Imports_Certif/sevs.htm

I've been told it boils down to the only people it will be worthwhile
for is the large impporter/dealer networks, who incidentally were the
ones getting mighty pissed off about the no of grey imports eating into
their sales. It begs the question then, if all the smaller competition
is squeezed out, will they bother?

Nick
93 RS Wagon - in Oz

wendy c wrote:
>
> Hey there Rod, whats the story with AUS you dont seem
> to have very many jap muscle cars over there and what
> you have is very expensive, has anyone explored the
> possiblity of bringing them in from japan, or from
> over here, they must be hard to register or surely
> someone would have done it already.. any clues?
> Andy.
>
> --- Rod <melrod@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > yes, Rod in oz... '92 RS
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: peckers_nz
> > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 6:31 PM
> > Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] aussie rs owners
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[Ross]

Just out of interest, Nick, how much did the lad want for the Legacy GT
wagon? Did he tell you what he paid for it? The smaller turbo was also
apparently a feature in the auto GT sedans - VF 12? I think some of the GTs
were quite luxurious, more so than the Aussie RS, for example, electic
seats, bendable mirrors.
Ross
92 RS
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Robinson <nkrobinson@picknowl.com.au>
To: <BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 14 May 2002 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] aussie rs owners


> Yeah, there are quite a few of them around, particularly in Eastern
> States. I was looking at one in Sydney before I found my Aust delivered
> one. Most of them are auto, have a smaller but quicker-spooling turbo
> and usually the nice integrated roof racks. Cost of insurance was what
> stopped me buying it, and it's interior was a bit more low-rent than
> Aust model, and there was no cruise or ABS.
>
> It had a yellow compliance plate which I think means it was a personal
> import - possibly brought in under the 3 month rule with a whole batch.
> The guy who was selling it got from a yard on Paramatta Rd where he said
> there were several to choose from - his brother even had an identical
> one!
>
> I think the only other type of compliance plate is green, which
> indicates low volume import. It could be the other way around though.
>
> Nick
>
> Toby Corkindale wrote:
> >
> > Although, when i was in Melbourne a couple of weeks ago, I saw a dark
> > blue
> > Subaru Legacy GT driving around.
> >
> > It was definately badged as "Legacy GT 4WD" or something like that on
> > the
> > backk. It was a wagon and looked similar to mine, but i think it had
> > different door handles and skirting, plus a roofrack.. and it was
> > looking a
> > bit worse for wear.
> >
> > Still, someone must have imported it.. even though an equivelent was
> > sold
> > here. Although maybe the name change fooled the government
> >
> > -Toby
> >
> > On Mon, 13 May 2002, Doug Hancock wrote:
> >
> > > You also can't bring over a car that was sold on the domestic
> > market. Ie WRX
> > > must have owned it in another contry. Our laws are very strict. It
> > has to be
> > > to keep the local market develop. F&*k the law I say.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Toby Corkindale [mailto:tjcorkin@sa.pracom.com.au]
> > > Sent: Monday, 13 May 2002 5:49 PM
> > > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] aussie rs owners
> > >
> > > To bring them over from Japan (or elsewhere), you must have been
> > living in
> > > that country AND owning the car in that country, for at least nine
> > months.
> > > (I think thats the correct minimum time?)
> > >
> > > On top of that, you won't find any insurance company in the land who
> > will
> > > insure you... at least, not for anything under about half the cost
> > of the
> > > car, per year.
> > >
> > > And for some annoying reason, the car companies don't import the
> > hi-po
> > > models themselves. Grr.
> > >
> > > Toby
> > >
> > > On Mon, 13 May 2002, wendy c wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey there Rod, whats the story with AUS you dont seem
> > > > to have very many jap muscle cars over there and what
> > > > you have is very expensive, has anyone explored the
> > > > possiblity of bringing them in from japan, or from
> > > > over here, they must be hard to register or surely
> > > > someone would have done it already.. any clues?
> > > > Andy.
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[Rod]

.......it also has to do with ADR (Aust design rules) where vehicles must meet the Aust requirements, eg, type of seatbelt, cat converters, intrusion bars in doors, upgraded or changes to suspenion setting, etc,etc,etc...... list is quite lenghty. Lots of manuf. will only supply vehicles to Aust that will have good volume selling if they need to change the car design, even slight changes can be costly on the production line, simply to bring them into Aust... NZ doesn't have this problem so they are able to ship straight from Japan... no problems.
cheers, Rod

----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Robinson <mailto:nkrobinson@picknowl.com.au>
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] aussie rs owners

This is my understanding of the situation, although there's probably a
lot more to it than this. Apologies if I've repeated anything from other
posts.

Unlike NZ where 2nd hand Jap imports are everywhere, we have a car
manufacturing industry to protect, so the govt makes it very expensive
and tricky to import such cars, because they reduce new car sales and
therefore jobs in many manufacturing industries.

The low volume imports law used to be basically, if it's already sold
here, you can't import it. That meant you couldn't import a late 90's
twin turbo Legacy because that vinatge of Liberty was already sold here,
albeit in non-turbo form. That also explains why we can get Silvias,
Skylines and Supras etc because certain models were not sold here. What
I don't understand is why there are so many Toyota Surfs around, when
they are essentially the same as Hiluxes etc.

The other way to do it was if you lived in Japan or NZ for 3 months or
more, you could then bring one back as a personal import but it was
still very exxy. Some people used to spend 3 months of every year in
Japan and then bring back container loads of cars, so they changed it to
a longer period - 9 months sounds about right Toby.

Anyway, that's all history because we now have SEVS - Specialist and
Enthusiasts Vehicle Scheme, which I believe is designed to placate
manufacturers, retailers and consumers alike. It's very complex but the
way I understand it is they have now made an avenue for more of these
desirable imports to brought in, but they've tightened up the rules on
who can import them. Look here if you're interested:
http://www.dotars.gov.au/land/Imports_Certif/sevs.htm

I've been told it boils down to the only people it will be worthwhile
for is the large impporter/dealer networks, who incidentally were the
ones getting mighty pissed off about the no of grey imports eating into
their sales. It begs the question then, if all the smaller competition
is squeezed out, will they bother?

Nick
93 RS Wagon - in Oz

wendy c wrote:
>
> Hey there Rod, whats the story with AUS you dont seem
> to have very many jap muscle cars over there and what
> you have is very expensive, has anyone explored the
> possiblity of bringing them in from japan, or from
> over here, they must be hard to register or surely
> someone would have done it already.. any clues?
> Andy.
>
> --- Rod <melrod@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > yes, Rod in oz... '92 RS
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[boostwagon]

Why, did you buy it?

He wanted $21,500 about a year ago. I talked him down as far as $19k
but then I found out what it would cost me to insure. He didn't tell
me what he paid for it though. It was a 93 and under 100,000km though
which was quite attractive. Turns out I got mine at just over
100,000km but with the full (expensive) 100k service done so I was
happy.

I still wince when I occasionally look through the ads at what RS's
can be bought for now. Pretty hard to find a sub-150km wagon though.

It's trim level did seem quite wierd. As I said, it had no cruise or
ABS but had climate control and electric seats. Bendable mirrors? -
FIIK! I have some photos of it and the seats look quite nice - velour
maybe, but not as 'sculpted' as the RS. It was black with bronze
coloured bumpers but the wheels, while the same as an RS, were silver
with a bronze centre. Just didn't have as much overall appeal as an
RS.

When I asked the "Finance Minister" if I could buy it, she said yes,
as long as it wasn't black or two-tone. Doh!

VF12 - I thought someone here said recently that's what an Oz RS had.
If not, what do they have?

Nick

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Ross" <vecc@t...> wrote:
> Just out of interest, Nick, how much did the lad want for the
Legacy
GT
> wagon? Did he tell you what he paid for it? The smaller turbo was
also
> apparently a feature in the auto GT sedans - VF 12? I think some of
the GTs
> were quite luxurious, more so than the Aussie RS, for example,
electic
> seats, bendable mirrors.
> Ross
> 92 RS
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Nick Robinson <nkrobinson@p...>
> To: <BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...>
> Sent: Tuesday, 14 May 2002 12:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] aussie rs owners
>
>
> > Yeah, there are quite a few of them around, particularly in
Eastern
> > States. I was looking at one in Sydney before I found my Aust
delivered
> > one. Most of them are auto, have a smaller but quicker-spooling
turbo
> > and usually the nice integrated roof racks. Cost of insurance was
what
> > stopped me buying it, and it's interior was a bit more low-rent
than
> > Aust model, and there was no cruise or ABS.
> >
> > It had a yellow compliance plate which I think means it was a
personal
> > import - possibly brought in under the 3 month rule with a whole
batch.
> > The guy who was selling it got from a yard on Paramatta Rd where
he said
> > there were several to choose from - his brother even had an
identical
> > one!
> >
> > I think the only other type of compliance plate is green, which
> > indicates low volume import. It could be the other way around
though.
> >
> > Nick
> >
> > Toby Corkindale wrote:
> > >
> > > Although, when i was in Melbourne a couple of weeks ago, I saw
a
dark
> > > blue
> > > Subaru Legacy GT driving around.
> > >
> > > It was definately badged as "Legacy GT 4WD" or something like
that on
> > > the
> > > backk. It was a wagon and looked similar to mine, but i think
it
had
> > > different door handles and skirting, plus a roofrack.. and it
was
> > > looking a
> > > bit worse for wear.
> > >
> > > Still, someone must have imported it.. even though an
equivelent
was
> > > sold
> > > here. Although maybe the name change fooled the government
> > >
> > > -Toby
> > >
> > > On Mon, 13 May 2002, Doug Hancock wrote:
> > >
> > > > You also can't bring over a car that was sold on the domestic
> > > market. Ie WRX
> > > > must have owned it in another contry. Our laws are very
strict. It
> > > has to be
> > > > to keep the local market develop. F&*k the law I say.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Toby Corkindale [mailto:tjcorkin@s...]
> > > > Sent: Monday, 13 May 2002 5:49 PM
> > > > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > > > Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] aussie rs owners
> > > >
> > > > To bring them over from Japan (or elsewhere), you must have
been
> > > living in
> > > > that country AND owning the car in that country, for at least
nine
> > > months.
> > > > (I think thats the correct minimum time?)
> > > >
> > > > On top of that, you won't find any insurance company in the
land who
> > > will
> > > > insure you... at least, not for anything under about half the
cost
> > > of the
> > > > car, per year.
> > > >
> > > > And for some annoying reason, the car companies don't import
the
> > > hi-po
> > > > models themselves. Grr.
> > > >
> > > > Toby
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 13 May 2002, wendy c wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hey there Rod, whats the story with AUS you dont seem
> > > > > to have very many jap muscle cars over there and what
> > > > > you have is very expensive, has anyone explored the
> > > > > possiblity of bringing them in from japan, or from
> > > > > over here, they must be hard to register or surely
> > > > > someone would have done it already.. any clues?
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[alan butler]

VF12 - I thought someone here said recently that's what an Oz RS had.
If not, what do they have?


My 92 has a VF12 on it but I have read an article where a late RS had a VF14. Anyone else checked theirs? It's etched on an ID plate on the comp housing.

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[Ross]

Al, what article was that? Can you read the ID plate on the comp housing without taking the turbo out?
Cheers
Ross 92 RS

----- Original Message -----
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To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 15 May 2002 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: aussie rs owners


VF12 - I thought someone here said recently that's what an Oz RS had.
If not, what do they have?


My 92 has a VF12 on it but I have read an article where a late RS had a VF14. Anyone else checked theirs? It's etched on an ID plate on the comp housing.

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[Ross]

No, I did not buy it, but I almost bought a Black Legacy GT sedan for
$12000.00. I think the aussie RS has a VF 10. Some of the Jap Legacy RS
models apparently had the big VF 8 compressor wheel and apparently our
American friends have the VF 11. Can anyone elaborate?
Ross
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, 15 May 2002 4:25 PM
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: aussie rs owners


> Why, did you buy it?
>
> He wanted $21,500 about a year ago. I talked him down as far as $19k
> but then I found out what it would cost me to insure. He didn't tell
> me what he paid for it though. It was a 93 and under 100,000km though
> which was quite attractive. Turns out I got mine at just over
> 100,000km but with the full (expensive) 100k service done so I was
> happy.
>
> I still wince when I occasionally look through the ads at what RS's
> can be bought for now. Pretty hard to find a sub-150km wagon though.
>
> It's trim level did seem quite wierd. As I said, it had no cruise or
> ABS but had climate control and electric seats. Bendable mirrors? -
> FIIK! I have some photos of it and the seats look quite nice - velour
> maybe, but not as 'sculpted' as the RS. It was black with bronze
> coloured bumpers but the wheels, while the same as an RS, were silver
> with a bronze centre. Just didn't have as much overall appeal as an
> RS.
>
> When I asked the "Finance Minister" if I could buy it, she said yes,
> as long as it wasn't black or two-tone. Doh!
>
> VF12 - I thought someone here said recently that's what an Oz RS had.
> If not, what do they have?
>
> Nick
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Ross" <vecc@t...> wrote:
> > Just out of interest, Nick, how much did the lad want for the
> Legacy
> GT
> > wagon? Did he tell you what he paid for it? The smaller turbo was
> also
> > apparently a feature in the auto GT sedans - VF 12? I think some of
> the GTs
> > were quite luxurious, more so than the Aussie RS, for example,
> electic
> > seats, bendable mirrors.
> > Ross
> > 92 RS
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Nick Robinson <nkrobinson@p...>
> > To: <BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...>
> > Sent: Tuesday, 14 May 2002 12:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] aussie rs owners
> >
> >
> > > Yeah, there are quite a few of them around, particularly in
> Eastern
> > > States. I was looking at one in Sydney before I found my Aust
> delivered
> > > one. Most of them are auto, have a smaller but quicker-spooling
> turbo
> > > and usually the nice integrated roof racks. Cost of insurance was
> what
> > > stopped me buying it, and it's interior was a bit more low-rent
> than
> > > Aust model, and there was no cruise or ABS.
> > >
> > > It had a yellow compliance plate which I think means it was a
> personal
> > > import - possibly brought in under the 3 month rule with a whole
> batch.
> > > The guy who was selling it got from a yard on Paramatta Rd where
> he said
> > > there were several to choose from - his brother even had an
> identical
> > > one!
> > >
> > > I think the only other type of compliance plate is green, which
> > > indicates low volume import. It could be the other way around
> though.
> > >
> > > Nick
> > >
> > > Toby Corkindale wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Although, when i was in Melbourne a couple of weeks ago, I saw
> a
> dark
> > > > blue
> > > > Subaru Legacy GT driving around.
> > > >
> > > > It was definately badged as "Legacy GT 4WD" or something like
> that on
> > > > the
> > > > backk. It was a wagon and looked similar to mine, but i think
> it
> had
> > > > different door handles and skirting, plus a roofrack.. and it
> was
> > > > looking a
> > > > bit worse for wear.
> > > >
> > > > Still, someone must have imported it.. even though an
> equivelent
> was
> > > > sold
> > > > here. Although maybe the name change fooled the government
> > > >
> > > > -Toby
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 13 May 2002, Doug Hancock wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > You also can't bring over a car that was sold on the domestic
> > > > market. Ie WRX
> > > > > must have owned it in another contry. Our laws are very
> strict. It
> > > > has to be
> > > > > to keep the local market develop. F&*k the law I say.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Toby Corkindale [mailto:tjcorkin@s...]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, 13 May 2002 5:49 PM
> > > > > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > > > > Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] aussie rs owners
> > > > >
> > > > > To bring them over from Japan (or elsewhere), you must have
> been
> > > > living in
> > > > > that country AND owning the car in that country, for at least
> nine
> > > > months.
> > > > > (I think thats the correct minimum time?)
> > > > >
> > > > > On top of that, you won't find any insurance company in the
> land who
> > > > will
> > > > > insure you... at least, not for anything under about half the
> cost
> > > > of the
> > > > > car, per year.
> > > > >
> > > > > And for some annoying reason, the car companies don't import
> the
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> > > > > > you have is very expensive, has anyone explored the
> > > > > > possiblity of bringing them in from japan, or from
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[alan butler]

Hi Ross,
it was an article on autospeed about an RS engine rebuild. You can read the id on the car by looking through under the air intake to the turbo at the lower part of the comp housing. Youy may need to clean it first and you'll probably need a light. How does the numeracy work, is lower number larger size?

Cheers. Al.
92 RS Turbo




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[Ross]

Yes Al, as far as I can tell, the larger the number, the bigger the compressor wheel. I have noticed that some of the maroon mica ruby 92/93 aussie RS Turbos seem to boost earlier than mine (white). Maybe the colour is just a coincidence, but I could never figure out whether it was the diff ratio 3.545 as opposed to my 3.9 or maybe they have smaller turbos?
Do you need to look at the id number from under the car or can you see it from above looking down under the bonnet? Is it possible to email the autospeed article to the Group?
Cheers
Ross 92 RS

----- Original Message -----
From: alan butler <mailto:alandheidi@bigpond.com.au>
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 16 May 2002 70 AM
Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: aussie rs owners


Hi Ross,
it was an article on autospeed about an RS engine rebuild. You can read the id on the car by looking through under the air intake to the turbo at the lower part of the comp housing. Youy may need to clean it first and you'll probably need a light. How does the numeracy work, is lower number larger size?

Cheers. Al.
92 RS Turbo



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[alan butler]

Hi Ross,
I find that my car isn't really all that laggy at all,. the turbo begins to spool up at 2500rpm and the engine responds to that, it probably isn't on boost yet but that doesn't mean it isn't increasing the cylinder filling and hence power. My 92 has 3.545 gears and a VF12, perhaps the 3.9 gears go with the larger VF14 turbo. The guy in the article makes mention of the fact that he wasn't prepared to increase the size of the turbo as it was already laggy and that was a VF14.


Cheers. Al.
92 RS Turbo



Yes Al, as far as I can tell, the larger the number, the bigger the compressor wheel. I have noticed that some of the maroon mica ruby 92/93 aussie RS Turbos seem to boost earlier than mine (white). Maybe the colour is just a coincidence, but I could never figure out whether it was the diff ratio 3.545 as opposed to my 3.9 or maybe they have smaller turbos?
Do you need to look at the id number from under the car or can you see it from above looking down under the bonnet? Is it possible to email the autospeed article to the Group?
Cheers
Ross 92 RS




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[Rod]

Ross,
all the Aussie RS 's and wrx up to about MY01 (there are exceptions , STI ) have a FINAL diff ratio of 3.9. (even though the rear states 3.545. Both the wrx and RS use 3.54 diffs on the back end and 3.9 the other , they use a 1.1 :1 center diff stepper , this gives them mostly front wheel drive , if you X 3.54 X 1.1 = 3.9
cheers, Rod .. in Oz

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To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 107 PM
Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: aussie rs owners

Yes Al, as far as I can tell, the larger the number, the bigger the compressor wheel. I have noticed that some of the maroon mica ruby 92/93 aussie RS Turbos seem to boost earlier than mine (white). Maybe the colour is just a coincidence, but I could never figure out whether it was the diff ratio 3.545 as opposed to my 3.9 or maybe they have smaller turbos?
Do you need to look at the id number from under the car or can you see it from above looking down under the bonnet? Is it possible to email the autospeed article to the Group?
Cheers
Ross 92 RS

----- Original Message -----
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To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 16 May 2002 70 AM
Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: aussie rs owners


Hi Ross,
it was an article on autospeed about an RS engine rebuild. You can read the id on the car by looking through under the air intake to the turbo at the lower part of the comp housing. Youy may need to clean it first and you'll probably need a light. How does the numeracy work, is lower number larger size?

Cheers. Al.
92 RS Turbo



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[boostwagon]

I don't want to get my ass kicked for breach of copyright, so I've
just pasted in the relevant paragraphs of that article. You can read
the 1st page at least here:
http://www.autospeed.com/members/A_0158 ... ticle.html

I'll check mine on the weekend. It's an Aug '93 build, which is
probably close to the latest you can get before the newer model. It
does seem though that some of us have VF12 and others VF14.

Nick
93 RS Wagon
--------------
from Autospeed:
Max Heywood of Australian Turbo Sales was pleasantly surprised with
the condition of our Liberty's standard IHI RHB5 VF14 turbocharger. He
noted that for it to be in such good condition, the oil must have been
changed frequently, it hadn't been subjected to hot shutdown and it
wasn't over-boosted. He also suggested that under the correct
circumstances a turbocharger can last about 150,000 kilometres before
it is ready to be fully rebuilt. In any event, we felt it worthwhile
to have the turbo rebuilt as it was about due.

Max suggested that some minor modification could be made to the
factory Liberty turbo for more power - namely, a slightly larger
volume compressor wheel. However, he also pointed out that the slight
improvement in power would be outweighed by the accompanying increased
lag. So we steered clear of this.

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Ross" <vecc@t...> wrote:
> Yes Al, as far as I can tell, the larger the number, the bigger the
compressor wheel. I have noticed that some of the maroon mica ruby
92/93 aussie RS Turbos seem to boost earlier than mine (white). Maybe
the colour is just a coincidence, but I could never figure out whether
it was the diff ratio 3.545 as opposed to my 3.9 or maybe they have
smaller turbos?
> Do you need to look at the id number from under the car or can you
see it from above looking down under the bonnet? Is it possible to
email the autospeed article to the Group?
> Cheers
> Ross 92 RS
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: alan butler
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> Sent: Thursday, 16 May 2002 70 AM
> Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: aussie rs owners
>
>
> Hi Ross,
> it was an article on autospeed about an RS engine
rebuild. You can read the id on the car by looking through under the
air intake to the turbo at the lower part of the comp housing. Youy
may need to clean it first and you'll probably need a light. How does
the numeracy work, is lower number larger size?
>
> Cheers. Al.
> 92 RS Turbo
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[Rod]

i cannot access this as i'm not a member....
you will have to forward the page, not the link.
Rod

----- Original Message -----
From: boostwagon <mailto:nkrobinson@picknowl.com.au>
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 115 AM
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: aussie rs owners

I don't want to get my ass kicked for breach of copyright, so I've
just pasted in the relevant paragraphs of that article. You can read
the 1st page at least here:
http://www.autospeed.com/members/A_0158 ... ticle.html

I'll check mine on the weekend. It's an Aug '93 build, which is
probably close to the latest you can get before the newer model. It
does seem though that some of us have VF12 and others VF14.

Nick
93 RS Wagon
--------------
from Autospeed:
Max Heywood of Australian Turbo Sales was pleasantly surprised with
the condition of our Liberty's standard IHI RHB5 VF14 turbocharger. He
noted that for it to be in such good condition, the oil must have been
changed frequently, it hadn't been subjected to hot shutdown and it
wasn't over-boosted. He also suggested that under the correct
circumstances a turbocharger can last about 150,000 kilometres before
it is ready to be fully rebuilt. In any event, we felt it worthwhile
to have the turbo rebuilt as it was about due.

Max suggested that some minor modification could be made to the
factory Liberty turbo for more power - namely, a slightly larger
volume compressor wheel. However, he also pointed out that the slight
improvement in power would be outweighed by the accompanying increased
lag. So we steered clear of this.

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Ross" <vecc@t...> wrote:
> Yes Al, as far as I can tell, the larger the number, the bigger the
compressor wheel. I have noticed that some of the maroon mica ruby
92/93 aussie RS Turbos seem to boost earlier than mine (white). Maybe
the colour is just a coincidence, but I could never figure out whether
it was the diff ratio 3.545 as opposed to my 3.9 or maybe they have
smaller turbos?
> Do you need to look at the id number from under the car or can you
see it from above looking down under the bonnet? Is it possible to
email the autospeed article to the Group?
> Cheers
> Ross 92 RS
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: alan butler
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> Sent: Thursday, 16 May 2002 70 AM
> Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: aussie rs owners
>
>
> Hi Ross,
> it was an article on autospeed about an RS engine
rebuild. You can read the id on the car by looking through under the
air intake to the turbo at the lower part of the comp housing. Youy
may need to clean it first and you'll probably need a light. How does
the numeracy work, is lower number larger size?
>
> Cheers. Al.
> 92 RS Turbo
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