stiffen me up without lowering

206er · Post by **206er** » Sun Jun 08, 2003 3:46 am

Does any companies make stiffer springs for my 91 4wd wagon that do not lower, or lower slightly? I'd like a firmer ride but need the height for my driveway. I do not want to get those lift springs. (why lift a car? you might as well just get an suv or truck) However, if they are stiffer, they can be cut a little for desired height? anyone have any ideas?
oh, what about dampers too? I have heard good things about gr2's and such... does any company make a kit including springs and struts?
jeremy

206er · Post by **206er** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 9:16 am

pretty dead around here...

LegacyLuvr · Post by **LegacyLuvr** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 9:34 am

I just got finished myself with looking for non lowering springs for my 91 Legacy Sedan and found that it was near impossible to find regular springs in the aftermarket sector. All that is out there to my knowledge are the aftermarket lowering springs and Whiteline are the only ones that make the lowering springs for the 91 Legacy with the conical shaped rear springs that is common on the 90-91's. I would suggest, if you don't have a problem with your original springs, to use them with the GR2's and those alone may be all you need to do. If you want to get a new pair of springs, you may want to go to subaruparts.com or 1stsubaruparts.com and give them a call and ask them to look around their national warehouses to see if they can find you the springs for your car. The GR2's are a stiffer strut than the stock Subaru struts so you will get your firmer ride from the struts alone. I just put them on my car and the ride is much firmer but not harsh. I really like them alot.. Feels like a new car. I am having a little funky problem with mine though which was there before I replaced the struts.. I just finished posting my saga under "My Soob has an attitude problem.. " There is some discussion on the pros and cons of cutting springs too on this board at this link
viewtopic.php?t=511
As far as a strut/spring set, as far as I can tell from all of my shopping around, all is sold seperately, but I am not 100% on that.

ciper · Post by **ciper** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 7:12 pm

Instead of telling us you want the car "stiffer" tell us exactly what you want to improve.

206er · Post by **206er** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 6:23 pm

I guess I'm looking for less body roll, more neutral handling, although its not all that bad right now. thanks for the suggestion on the gr2's, I'm gonna get some of those soon. I was thinking about it, and maybe I'll spring for the lowering springs when I've got the dough. Ive got a rabbit gti project goin on too though, and moneys a little tight.
laterz
jeremy

ciper · Post by **ciper** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 7:49 pm

Sounds like front and rear sway bars would do exactly what you want without hurting "over bump" ride quality or ride height.

Examnle, for a short time one of my legacy had 22mm front and rear sway bars with stock springs and Gr2. It was very nice because the ride was smooth yet body roll was non existant

206er · Post by **206er** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 10:43 pm

yes, that sounds awesome. I'm going to get one of Subiegal's 22mm fronts and probably a 22mm rear soon. im gonna wait on the gr2's tho.
jeremy

ciper · Post by **ciper** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 1:13 am

The only problem to look for is that you will be stressing the sway bar alot if you have soft suspension (relative).

Meaning the sway bar has to work even harder if the springs and struts arent trying very hard. This causes bushing failure, or even damaged mounts. Nothing serious though.

Although you dont want to lower I suggest finding a set of front springs with higher rates, say 200 pounds. The front springs on our legacy stock is VERY soft (125 pps2 if I remember right) while the rear is something like 190.

206er · Post by **206er** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 2:47 am

Stiffer springs just in the front? if there are stiffer springs other than lowering springs, what are they? are there other models of legacy that the suspension corresponds to my 91 wagon? I have heard about some combo of legacy springs and gc8 strut bearings, is this a viable option?

ciper · Post by **ciper** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 3:55 am

You just need to look at the spring diameter, and find another subaru with the correct rates. The only variable then would be height.

FrmRgz2Rchz · Post by **FrmRgz2Rchz** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 4:35 am

Will the GR2's alone prevent body roll?

206er · Post by **206er** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 5:02 pm

with a softer suspension is fatigue of the actual swaybar an issue? or do the bushings provide a weak link?
jeremy

eastbaysubaru · Post by **eastbaysubaru** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 5:37 pm

AFAIK, the bushings and the swaybar mounts will take the beating. The bar itself should be fine.

-Brian

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stiffen me up without lowering

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