Infiniti GTR, basically an AWD 400+hp G35 coupe. Discuss

ciper · Post by **ciper** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 3:52 am

From all that I read this is the next killer car, assuming the price is right. We'll finally know what all the guys over seas are talking about!

Yukonart · Post by **Yukonart** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 3:57 am

Yeah. . . rumors of this "New Skyline" have been tossed around for many months. Apparently, there is talk of bringing it here. . . but so far I've heard no solid figures for the USDM price and power figures.

evolutionmovement · Post by **evolutionmovement** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:36 am

From several sources (Car, Sports Car International, maybe Grassroots Motorsports, I can't remember) the G35 platform is the Skyline and they are supposed to be bringing it here. Problem is that they've just pushed back the date a year to (I think) 2006. They've just started selling the G35 with an AWD option and it was designed for such from the get go. I got the impression that it would be sold as an Infiniti and as a version of the G35, but my guess would be that they would change the body style. I know it costs more, but my man Carlos I think understands the Skyline well enough to make it more unique. Not that I have any problem with a G35 coupe...

Steve

Dr Nick · Post by **Dr Nick** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 9:29 am

The new Skyline is very different to the previous versions. New one: http://www.batfa.com/new_car_nissan_skyline.htm

Old one: http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame.mv ... mv&num=395

There's a guy here in the UK with an R34 which is modified to >900BHP and is recorded as the fastest accelerating road car here - 0-60mph in 2.91 seconds...

morgie · Post by **morgie** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 6:25 pm

Don't forget that, as an impreza comes in TS, RS, WRX, STI versions, the Skyline comes into a wide range of versions too (and in both 2 doors and 4 doors form ! )

We presently have acces to 2 versions of the JDM Skyline, sold in the US/Canada under the name Infinity G35 and Infinity G35 Coupe.

The version we are missing , is the GTR one, wich is equivalent to the STI in subaruland

... The GTR might look pretty different or not. but it's drivetrain is what will trully differenciate it. They abandonned the RB26DETT, and will possibly use a turboed (or Twin turbo) V8 engine.

Future will tell

91White-T · Post by **91White-T** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 6:31 pm

Drool.....

Yukonart · Post by **Yukonart** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 6:58 pm

I'll second the DROOLING park!

LaureltheQueen · Post by **LaureltheQueen** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 6:59 pm

i wan tto have that car's babies.

legacy92ej22t · Post by **legacy92ej22t** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 7:31 pm

Hmmm.....Skyline ( in my best Homer Simpson voice)

evolutionmovement · Post by **evolutionmovement** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 8:59 pm

The above was a show car, as far as I know they've never announced that they are going to build it. Though I really hope to hell that they do.

Steve

THAWA · Post by **THAWA** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 9:15 pm

am I the only one that thinks nissan is going the wrong way with all their cars? I much prefere the look of the generation before these on damn near every model line (cept sentra) Ah well, as long as it's still a beast.

evolutionmovement · Post by **evolutionmovement** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 9:39 pm

Your the only one.

You could look at sales... After running in the red for about 10 years, Renault who bought about a third of Nissan in the late '90's stuck the guy responsible for their turnaround (who had also worked for Michelin) in charge of Nissan. He went against all traditional rules of Japanese business to cut costs and redundancies, forged a closer yet less monetarily compensatory relationship with suppliers, and cut the number of platforms way down. Then to reduce the costs of the expensive, underutilized, and excellent V6, he put it in just about everything. He's a legend in Japan and promised to bring Nissan to profitability in two years. He beat the goal and they've paid off their extensive debts. An Infiniti, what memorable car did they make until just recently? They were also-rans since the day they were introduced to compete with Lexus (their horrible rocks and trees introductory ad campaign didn't help), but now everyone's talking about the G35s and FXs. I even wrote the M45 into my second book. Although I think the 350Z is too heavy and a little awkward (but not ugly), there wasn't much choice due to the necessary adaptability of the platform used. The tradeoff is stiffness, however. Something my original Zs could have used, but they only weighed about 2300lbs.

Steve

THAWA · Post by **THAWA** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 9:50 pm

yeah i only meant the cosmetics, I think they did a great job turning around.

Brat4by4 · Post by **Brat4by4** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 6:18 pm

I don't understand the fall of muscular designs. Acura Legend... gone. 80's 300Z... now 350Z. Skyline... now that concept crap. Why does everything have to have the melted bar of soap styling?

It used to be when something like a Legend or C3 Vette or Skyline was in your rearview mirrors it could literally scare you... now...

91White-T · Post by **91White-T** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 6:34 pm

My first car was an 87 Legend and let me tell you there was nothing muscular about it...lol

evolutionmovement · Post by **evolutionmovement** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 10:58 pm

I think he meand the nineties ones before they went to the retarded alpha numeric 'RL'. My girlfriend begged me to get a sweet '95 coupe Legend. Nice car - I agree that it had a great aggressive nose to it. I saved my money and bought the Legacy instead. Don't have the girl, still have the car.

It seems designers have run out of ideas - its either retro, generic, or ugly just for the sake of looking different. Blame the boardroom for either too conservative an attitude (even our damn Legacies - why did they put such subtle fender flares - if you're going to do it, do it!) or being completely out of touch with aesthetic (Aztec!? How the hell did that ever get approved?!). You can also blame some of the designers too who believe their own hype and crawl up their own ass ('cough' Chris Bangle). I could go on for a while about this (I've learned to look at newer designs with rose-colored glasses. Makes life easier). If you want unique and aggressive, you should check out some of the road-track cars they have in Britain or TVR (what a Corvette should be more like).

Steve

entirelyturbo · Post by **entirelyturbo** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 11:34 pm

Am I the only one that HATES the way that car looks???

The ass end is okay, but the front.. ugh!!!

You all wanna see a Skyline?

R32 baby

I want to lick that car's tailpipe

91White-T · Post by **91White-T** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 11:54 pm

R34>*

THAWA · Post by **THAWA** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 12:02 am

I'm with you suby, I'll take a late 80s-mid/late 90's car over most this crap car makers are designing now.

evolutionmovement · Post by **evolutionmovement** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 12:16 am

I like the R34 best, but I'd even take a 1970 2000 GT-R. I think older Japanese cars are real cool and hugely unappreciated. Datsun 510, early rear-drive Corollas, Subarus, '70's Celicas, early Z's (before they became ZXtra weight), the Toyota 2000GT...

Steve

Post by **Legacy777** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 12:18 am

They've all run out of ideas......it's all regurgitated shit any more.....

There really hasn't been much that has been completely new....everything's stolen from something else....movies do it...people do it.....blah blah blah.....

evolutionmovement · Post by **evolutionmovement** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 1:18 am

That's always an argument. There is nothing new under the sun, and I would agree to an extent. What we consider new is just a refining of past or present designs (or ideas, etc.). Everything is inspired by something else and that is true - and I think there's nothing wrong with that. If we waited for only completely new ideas we'd wait forever and nothing would ever be reliable. With design, things can't be too radical as consumers won't identify with it and be turned off. At the same time you need to attract their attention by standing out if you plan to sell through aesthetic. That's the biggest difficulty with designing (in my opinion - others have trouble with simple form) - it's a balancing act. My problem is when they don't even try anymore - like the Ford Thunderbird. Why do something with a similar impact as the original, but modern? No, it's much easier to just bite the shit done in the past that they know is popular with consumers. Not to just pick on J Mays and Ford - there are many guilty parties. I am reluctantly starting to accept this. Shit. That means apathy.

Steve

legacy92ej22t · Post by **legacy92ej22t** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 1:31 am

To be perfectly honest I don't like the front end on that at all. From the door back I think the lines are nice and the rear end is ok too. The front end is hideous though. I much prefer older Skylines like the 2000 GT-R,
R30 RS-X, R32 GT-R, R33 GT-R, and the R34 GT-R (my fav). I don't like a lot of the new space age, wierd designs but every once and a while one will grow on me.

Here's a pretty good Skyline webpage if anyone wants to check it out

http://www.jbskyline.net/

entirelyturbo · Post by **entirelyturbo** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 7:39 am

evolutionmovement wrote:I think older Japanese cars are real cool and hugely unappreciated.

How true. This era was back when Japanese cars were built to appeal to Japanese people, not Americans. That's why they're so cool and interesting. To put it simply, most "Japanese" cars today have nothing to to with Japan at all, they're built to American standards.

legacy92ej22t wrote:R30 RS-X

Now we're talking!

80's Japanese sports cars at their finest

LaureltheQueen · Post by **LaureltheQueen** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 8:13 am

That's it. Time for some initial D!

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Infiniti GTR, basically an AWD 400+hp G35 coupe. Discuss

Infiniti GTR, basically an AWD 400+hp G35 coupe. Discuss