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TD05 on Ebay
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 10:43 pm
by carmat76
Hey Guys,
Check it out...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 2459072174
These turbos are great bolt on's for our engines!
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 11:01 pm
by legacy92ej22t
Wow, I really wish I had the money to bid on that right now. Someone should jump on this!
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 11:16 pm
by ciper
What would be the maximum amount of boost possible (keeping in the eficient range) for this turbo on a 2.2 liter?
So this turbo would fit with zero modification to intake piping? (meaning its pointed the right way)?
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 11:28 pm
by vrg3
The compressor outlet is nearly parallel with the ground. That means it'll fit 93-96 WRX air/aur intercooler piping or BC/BF air/water intercooler piping, but not USDM stock piping.
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 11:33 pm
by ciper
Cool. Ill bid on it.
I can use it while getting my car ready for stand alone management, then sell it back to the board members!
What do you guys think is a fair price for it?
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 11:57 pm
by boostjunkie
ciper wrote:What would be the maximum amount of boost possible (keeping in the eficient range) for this turbo on a 2.2 liter?
I have no idea, but it is very similar to the small 16G for DSMs. The compressor maps for the small 16G can be found in a google search.
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 1:09 am
by MY92
I think 18psi is about the point of efficiency of the WRX TD05-16G.
It definately has the better 070 exhaust housing.
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 5:35 am
by ciper
18 on the 2.0 liter?
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 6:21 am
by MY92
Yep, 1994cc
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 5:07 pm
by QuickDrive
Looks like you and this Fredy wrx are in quite the bidding war.
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 5:15 pm
by boostjunkie
Which sucks b/c if Fredy wrx win it, you know he's gonna modify the turbo inlet, making it useless for any of us.
ciper, you better win this auction!!
You should try auctionsniper.com, if you really want to win it.
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 5:16 pm
by boostjunkie
On a somewhat related note, does anyone know how easy it would be to swap an 18G compressor into the subaru TD05 housing? I know that the 18G is the largest compressor that can fit into the Mitsu TD05 housing.
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 8:12 pm
by ciper
I think fredy_wrx is the sellers alter ego
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 8:20 pm
by MY92
Most guys I know that hybrid their td05's go for a td06 20g upgrade, which means you have to twist the turbo or raise the intake manifold so you can make a straight intake like the late model engines.
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 4:37 am
by Matt Monson
ciper wrote:18 on the 2.0 liter?
I second this question? I was under the impression that the TD05 maxed out around 16-17. Anybody got anything in print, like a compressor map?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 4:40 am
by MY92
MY92 wrote:Yep, 1994cc
I answered the Q.
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 5:01 am
by vrg3
Matt Monson wrote:Anybody got anything in print, like a compressor map?
http://www.graphics.cornell.edu/~v/comp ... glarge.gif
http://www.graphics.cornell.edu/~v/comp ... gsmall.gif
I don't know which is the relevant one.
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 5:04 am
by ciper
Damn, the reserve is still not met. Watch someone come snipe the auction and neither of us get it
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 5:22 am
by Matt Monson
MY92 wrote:MY92 wrote:Yep, 1994cc
I answered the Q.
Um, can you help me out here? Maybe I am a little dense, but how does telling us the displacement of an EJ20 tell us the compressor efficiency of an TDO5?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 5:23 am
by Matt Monson
As usual vrg3, you deliver. I will run the numbers for myself...
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 9:31 am
by MY92
Matt Monson wrote:
I second this question?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 5:05 pm
by boostjunkie
Use the small 16G compressor map.
Matt Monson, as for the efficiency being for a 2.0L, the rate at which a turbo operates is dependent on both displacement and pressure. Imagine if you will, two containers, one 2L and one 2.2L. The 2.2L obviously has more capacity. If you were to take two water pumps of the same size and try to fill up the containers completely in the same amount of time, the pump filling the 2.2L would be working "harder". The same holds true for a turbo, which tries to maintain the same pressure for both engines.
The turbo might be efficient on a 2L at 18psi, but 18psi on a 2.2L will be out of the effective efficiency of the same turbo, because it will be working harder to pressurize the larger engine at the same psi.
That's why whenever you ask someone what the efficiency of a turbo is, they'll usually tell you for a certain size engine.
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 10:27 pm
by ciper
So just for a guess, I bet 16.5 is the good range for this turbo on a 2.2 . Plus its a better design so it should spool faster than stock.
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 10:30 pm
by boostjunkie
That's what I'm assuming.
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 4:58 am
by Matt Monson
boostjunkie wrote:Use the small 16G compressor map.
Matt Monson, as for the efficiency being for a 2.0L, the rate at which a turbo operates is dependent on both displacement and pressure. Imagine if you will, two containers, one 2L and one 2.2L. The 2.2L obviously has more capacity. If you were to take two water pumps of the same size and try to fill up the containers completely in the same amount of time, the pump filling the 2.2L would be working "harder". The same holds true for a turbo, which tries to maintain the same pressure for both engines.
The turbo might be efficient on a 2L at 18psi, but 18psi on a 2.2L will be out of the effective efficiency of the same turbo, because it will be working harder to pressurize the larger engine at the same psi.
That's why whenever you ask someone what the efficiency of a turbo is, they'll usually tell you for a certain size engine.
Thank you. I was aware of the tech behind it and thus why I was more interested in the maps since I do know how to do this math myself. Knowing where the TD05 maxes out for an EJ20 does very little to help me verify the efficency for the EJ22.
I just couldn't figure out why MY92 felt the need to be so unhelpful with his responses.
unless of course he didn't know the answer for use with an EJ22 and didn't have access to the maps himself. *shrugging shoulders* Doesn't matter , other members gave me what i was looking for and it looks like Ciper may have beat me to the math.
