4EAT-5MT pedal swap

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4EAT-5MT pedal swap

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Can I swap the pedals over with the auto box still in?

Would I have to bleed the brakes after changing the pedals.

Also, can I fit the clutch master cyl in with the auto there? I'm thinking of fitting it and just cable tie'ing the slave cyl some where to drop it from hanging about.

I want to do as much as I can before having to take the car off the road.
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Re: 4EAT-5MT pedal swap

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MY92 wrote:Can I swap the pedals over with the auto box still in?
Yes, they will fit in there fine.
Would I have to bleed the brakes after changing the pedals.
Not unless you completely disconnect the brake master cylinder. I was able to put my 5mt pedal set in w/o opening the brake system. I did have to unbolt a few things so i could get room.
Also, can I fit the clutch master cyl in with the auto there?
Should fit fine, looks like there is plenty of room for both.

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Post by ciper »

:lol: Imagine this.

Swap a pedal set in. Use a 5 speed shifter surround but keep the car auto. That would really throw everyone for a loop! You could use a strong spring to hold the clutch in its normal position to give it added realism.

How much space between the gas and brake between the two pedal sets?
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The brake pedal on the manual set has a 2 pin plug and my auto set has a 4 pin plug. I can only assume that mine is 4 pin because it has cruise control and the extra pins are for cancelling cruise via the brake pedal.

Here is a pic of the plugs
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Also on the manual set it has a cable for the gas, while my auto set doesn't have a cable at all. What could this be for?

Here is a pic of the manual pedals, I'll take another of the auto pedals in the car.

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My mate has a surround that makes his auto look like a manual. Fools the guys when they put it on the dyno thats for sure :lol:

Ciper: do you want me to measure the gap between the pedals?
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Post by mTk »

Ah, my clutch and brake pedals are attached to one bracket, for the hydraulic clutch. Yours must be for the cable clutch. Should make them quite a bit easier to install.

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Mine is definately for hyd clutch as I have the master cyl to go with it.

Maybe JDM is diff to USDM? Would surprise me.
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Post by mTk »

Must be, mine are like this:

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I'm curious, where does your master cyl go in the engine bay?

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My car is RHD, JDM.
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Ah, yeah, that'd do it.

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Post by MY92 »

Looks like I can just swap that brake sensor/plug thingy from my auto pedals to my manual ones. I think the 2 plug must be ABS only and the 4 plug is for cruise and abs.

Still don't know what the cable on the gas is for though.
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Post by THAWA »

could the plug also be used for the thing that doesn't allow you to shift out of park unless you have the brake depressed or you press the shift unlock button?
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Post by MY92 »

I have a shift lock button, but you're right, it could be.
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Post by 91White-T »

MY92 wrote:I think the 2 plug must be ABS only and the 4 plug is for cruise and abs.
The 2 plugger is for no cruise control, it just turns on the brake light, the 4 plugger turns on light and cancels cruise.
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Post by MY92 »

Thanks! Is it just a case of unbolting the 2pin plug and bolting on the 4pin?
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Post by 91White-T »

I think the harness is different, isn't it?
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Post by MY92 »

I meant on the pedal side.

Take the female plug off my auto set and put it on my manual set.
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Post by 91White-T »

Yeah, that should be it.
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