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4EAT-5MT pedal swap
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 11:44 pm
by MY92
Can I swap the pedals over with the auto box still in?
Would I have to bleed the brakes after changing the pedals.
Also, can I fit the clutch master cyl in with the auto there? I'm thinking of fitting it and just cable tie'ing the slave cyl some where to drop it from hanging about.
I want to do as much as I can before having to take the car off the road.
Re: 4EAT-5MT pedal swap
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 12:16 am
by mTk
MY92 wrote:Can I swap the pedals over with the auto box still in?
Yes, they will fit in there fine.
Would I have to bleed the brakes after changing the pedals.
Not unless you completely disconnect the brake master cylinder. I was able to put my 5mt pedal set in w/o opening the brake system. I did have to unbolt a few things so i could get room.
Also, can I fit the clutch master cyl in with the auto there?
Should fit fine, looks like there is plenty of room for both.
MK
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 1:46 am
by ciper

Imagine this.
Swap a pedal set in. Use a 5 speed shifter surround but keep the car auto. That would really throw everyone for a loop! You could use a strong spring to hold the clutch in its normal position to give it added realism.
How much space between the gas and brake between the two pedal sets?
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 4:01 am
by MY92
The brake pedal on the manual set has a 2 pin plug and my auto set has a 4 pin plug. I can only assume that mine is 4 pin because it has cruise control and the extra pins are for cancelling cruise via the brake pedal.
Here is a pic of the plugs
Also on the manual set it has a cable for the gas, while my auto set doesn't have a cable at all. What could this be for?
Here is a pic of the manual pedals, I'll take another of the auto pedals in the car.
My mate has a surround that makes his auto look like a manual. Fools the guys when they put it on the dyno thats for sure
Ciper: do you want me to measure the gap between the pedals?
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 4:08 am
by mTk
Ah, my clutch and brake pedals are attached to one bracket, for the hydraulic clutch. Yours must be for the cable clutch. Should make them quite a bit easier to install.
MK
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 4:10 am
by MY92
Mine is definately for hyd clutch as I have the master cyl to go with it.
Maybe JDM is diff to USDM? Would surprise me.
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 4:22 am
by mTk
Must be, mine are like this:

Pic from DLC
I'm curious, where does your master cyl go in the engine bay?
MK
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 8:17 am
by MY92
My car is RHD, JDM.
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 8:35 am
by mTk
Ah, yeah, that'd do it.
MK
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 8:24 pm
by MY92
Looks like I can just swap that brake sensor/plug thingy from my auto pedals to my manual ones. I think the 2 plug must be ABS only and the 4 plug is for cruise and abs.
Still don't know what the cable on the gas is for though.
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 9:29 pm
by THAWA
could the plug also be used for the thing that doesn't allow you to shift out of park unless you have the brake depressed or you press the shift unlock button?
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 9:31 pm
by MY92
I have a shift lock button, but you're right, it could be.
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 12:37 am
by 91White-T
MY92 wrote:I think the 2 plug must be ABS only and the 4 plug is for cruise and abs.
The 2 plugger is for no cruise control, it just turns on the brake light, the 4 plugger turns on light and cancels cruise.
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 1:07 am
by MY92
Thanks! Is it just a case of unbolting the 2pin plug and bolting on the 4pin?
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 2:02 am
by 91White-T
I think the harness is different, isn't it?
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 2:04 am
by MY92
I meant on the pedal side.
Take the female plug off my auto set and put it on my manual set.
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 12:22 pm
by 91White-T
Yeah, that should be it.