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Just got in from driving the car. Put my 6th street mile on it. No hard launches (I like to be clutch friendly as much as possible), just normal driving.

I was cruising at 55mph in 5th gear. I decided to open her up a little bit, and gave it the right foot (still in 5th).

I'm looking at the tach and it says 2500, 3000, 3500, 4000, 4500. I glance at the speedo, and the needle is still pegged at ~60mph.

So now I've got a slipping clutch, a dying wheel bearing, and a binding steering rack.

I know what I am doing with the money I was saving for my exhaust

Looks like the car is out for another week

But, but, but. . . .

She's getting even for making her sit.

Steve

She's asking for me to sell her. If the clutch IS going, I don't have the money to replace it. It'll have to sit for another 2 months until I can source the coin, and I don't know that I could deal with that. What's the point of keeping the car if I can only drive it for 30 miles every 3 months? I FINALLY get it on the road after 3 months and $2k in repairs. I get to drive it for one day, and it has to go BACK to the shop for ANOTHER $1k + in repairs. I'm getting really frustrated with the car right now. It's to depressing to even think about this right now.

I bought the car for $3400. Dumped $2k (soon $3k +) into repairs. I am almost starting to regret getting rid of my 95

I can hardly afford to keep the car, and I can't afford to sell it. When it rains, it fucking pours! Shit has just NOT been going well this past week.

LaureltheQueen wrote:

Yea, no shit. I've felt like that all night

Jeez, I almost wonder if you DID buy that same car I looked at in western MA. I had a Datsun 260Z that did that to me. For whatever reason, that car just did not like me. I walked the four miles from the train station more often than I drove. I had the chance t o buy the car back a few years later in a strange twist of fate. I declined. Hope once you get it going that it'll be the end of it for a while.

Steve

well i think mine might be slipping too but i dunno i was trying to get it over 100mph today at a 9 mile straight away to reno but it just seem to hang around the 90-95 mph and not gaining anymore speed (in 5th gear) i dont think its slipping but i wanted to go over 100mph lol i think if i droped it down in 4th but yea

Sucks, dude...

I guess it turns out you didn't get as good a deal on the car after all . That's one of the things that kind of sucks about buying a car on eBay. I bought mine on eBay and found all kinds of gremlins afterwards that a very thorough test drive and inspection would have found beforehand and that could have been bargaining chips in a conventional private party sale.

If you want to fix it on the cheap, I say make some low-ball offers to NASIOC members trying to unload a lightly used stock WRX clutch until one works. I think WRX stock clutches can fit Legacy Turbos... It's plausible that you'd also need a WRX flywheel, but it still might be very cheap to get used stock WRX flywheel and clutch parts, since people typically are afraid of buying a used clutch at all.

Maybe this guy:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthr ... did=555745

BAC5.2 wrote:She's asking for me to sell her. If the clutch IS going, I don't have the money to replace it. It'll have to sit for another 2 months until I can source the coin, and I don't know that I could deal with that. What's the point of keeping the car if I can only drive it for 30 miles every 3 months? I FINALLY get it on the road after 3 months and $2k in repairs. I get to drive it for one day, and it has to go BACK to the shop for ANOTHER $1k + in repairs. I'm getting really frustrated with the car right now. It's to depressing to even think about this right now.

I bought the car for $3400. Dumped $2k (soon $3k +) into repairs. I am almost starting to regret getting rid of my 95

I can hardly afford to keep the car, and I can't afford to sell it. When it rains, it fucking pours! Shit has just NOT been going well this past week.

Aw Phil, don't sell it! You haven't even been able to really drive it!

I wish you had found out about this sooner! I had that Exedy clutch I was selling. I would've given you a much lower price had I known you really needed it:(

Hmmmm, any ideas for gettin another clutch? You might wanna go on nasbisco and ask if anyone has a stock wrx clutch with low miles for sale. Alot of those guys sell their stockers right after they get the car to put in some aftermarket ones.

Email a guy named WrxJim in the Mid-A forum. He was gonna buy my clutch but then told me he could get a new stocker for $250. I'm not sure if that's within your budget, but it's significantly cheaper than any aftermarket clutch.

Ahh, man, that sucks Phil! Don't sell it though. Out of the 2k you already spent how much was labor? If you do some of this work yourself you'll save a lot ( I know you couldn't do the windshield). Do you still have the truck? If so, I would do the clutch on your own. You'll save a lot of money that way. Just take your time. I've never done one but I can try to come over and help in the evenings. I'm sure we could figure it out. We could probably have it done this next week if you get the parts.

Another thing is maybe you should just get a clutch and not worry about a lightened flywheel right now. I know it sucks to be in there and not change it if in the future you wanted to do it anyways but if the money isn't there then sometimes we have to just do some of what we'd like to do.

I'd really hate to see you sell the car and I'm willing to help you work on it if you decide to do it yourself. Can you use your garage? Or maybe Romans? If it's in a lighted enviroment we can bust it out in the evenings. Let me know.

Sorry to hear about the misfortune, if it makes you feel better i'm taking my car off the road for the next month or two to fix and mod the hell out of the car... it hasn't been driveable since the ABS unit took a shit on me

Regarding the clutch, the wrx clutch is identical as well as the flywheel... if you go to an aftermarket flywheel company, our car and the wrx share identical part numbers

I purchased my car a few years back for $5000CDN, which was a good deal considering near mint condition, low mileage new clutch and i believe a new steering rack... my friend just picked up one for just over half the price I paid with about 60,000kms more, however in the 8 months since he has purchased it, he has needed a new clutch, both front driveshafts, replaced leaking/rusty fuel lines, brakes all around, and a timing belt asnd front end engine seals... with our cars I don't think you can really get away with a good deal as you'll have to put some money back into the car, but i'm sure some of you guys have had better luck than most

*any problems i've had with my car are due to the racing/rallying and i doubt they would have occured otherwise

Good luck

If it makes you feel any better, I am about to post a FS of my EJ22T project engine because I can't make rent.

As for the clutch, I jsut backed out of a deal on an EJ20G clutch from a JDM WRX on Nabisco. The guy's screenname is Scobaru. I was going to pay $140 shipped for clutch, pressure plate and flywheel. Maybe you can still pick it up...

Well, I have been driving it all day, and it only really seems to slip in 3rd, 4th, and some in 5th.

Driving off-boost (as nearly impossible as that is) doesn't let it slip. I get shudder when I take off, but other than that, it's smooth. Putting it down a little bit in any of the taller gears, and it jumps a few hundred RPM's.

I've got some good money coming in soon, so I'll just put it in the bank, baby the car, and buy a good clutch and flywheel. Probably an Exedy clutch, and a ~10lb flywheel.

Matt - I appreciate the offer. I MIGHT consider tackling this myself. My garage lighting sucks, but that's nothing that can't be fixed with some bigass lights that Roman has (He and his friend worked until 4 and 5 in the morning getting the thing dropped). I'd talk to my mechanic and see what he'd charge. If it's only a few hundred, and my parents can help chip in, then I'll just have him knock it out in a day. If we did it ourselves, we could probably pull some late nights and get 'er done in a week.

I don't think I could sell the car. I was in a bad mood last night, but I have since realized, that this car is the tits. I just got it tinted, and it looks GOOOOOD. Just driving and shifting the car makes me forget about all my problems. It makes me feel to good to just drive it, that I couldn't get rid of it because of something like the clutch. Besides, it runs awesome.

The steering seems kind of messed up (shop fixed the steering rack, but I think they might have forgotten something, or it's a bum rack), and there is a TON of bump-steer. Is all of this bump-steer normal?

They also said that the SS clutch line that I bought off of Jason was the wrong one, and that the line needed 2 banjo fittings? I didn't know which line I was replacing so I don't know what to suggest.

Are you sure it is slipping, or could it be your speedometer?

I've noticed my speedometer stick on a couple occasions, but it didn't feel like my clutch was slipping. The needle would stay at a certain point and then suddenly catch and go up to the right speed. I has only happened a couple times on long trips.

-Ryan

No, it's definately slipping. Not only can I smell clutch, but I can hear it. And, when it slips, the Revs will climb and as soon as you let off the throttle, or reduce throttle input, the revs will drop to catch up to the clutch.

Looks like I can get an Exedy Super Street clutch and ACT Flywheel for $599.99 shipped. That seems like an OK deal. I might have to talk to my parents about it, as the deal only goes until May 30th.

There are two clutch lines, each with 10mm banjos on each end. The setup is unique to LHD BC/BF turbos and LHD 93-96 Impreza turbos.

Any chance the clutch won't slip if you limit boost? You could bypass the boost control solenoid (replace it with a union fitting), and maybe even fit some kind of restrictor in the intake tract.

If I'm back in DC by the time you do the clutch job I'll definitely help.

yeah, good idea. run wastegate boost. and don't let ANYONE drive your car. they will kill the clutch immediately, my dad did it to mine

A piece of gaffer's tape stretched over the inlet to the coffee mug should effectively limit torque production.

as would a bucket of water

Well, the gaffer's tape would probably be less likely to cause damage.

Hydro lock= the badness.

Phil, get ready. You never know when your pressure plate is gonna kick the bucket all of a sudden. And yes, it does happen suddenly..

I've shared the story before a couple times. My clutch would hold through 1st and 2nd. But get on it hard enough and it would slip a bit in 3rd and up, and mine's not even turbo . I was noticing the release point getting lower and lower as I drove it, so I knew it wouldn't be long... I drove the car to Discount Auto Parts about 4 miles away, ironically for something not clutch-related, and it drove okay there. On the way back, the release point got so low it was constantly engaged. I was double-clutching and still grinding gears. The next day I drove it to the mechanic, and the moment I pulled in the shop, the pedal stayed on the floor !

Phil, you can probably do it yourself. Yours is turbo, so the hydraulic stuff isn't something I've worked with, but with a friend by your side, a set of jackstands to put the car on, and a floor jack, that tranny can be out in 2 hours. Just get a Haynes manual as a reference as to what you need to take off in order to get it out.

And don't sell the car! Calm down, fix it, and enjoy it even more, being proud of the good job you did! It's always worth it, trust me

If you decide to replace the clutch yourself, you've got a good recource here to help you with any questions. Theres not really any special tools, alls you need is a buddy to help you manouver the gearbox.

Save yourself $300, and learn how your cars works, all at the same time

I've got 2 of the best people offering up help. Between Matt, Vikash, myself and my neighbor, the whole ordeal shouldn't take very long.

Vikash - Then yea, my clutch line is definately not right. Jason, do you know what car this line is even for? It's got a threaded female end and a banjo end.

It barely slips off boost, but at almost any positive pressure, you can feel it. It only happens some times. Like I can do a pull in 3rd, and it'll slip (some bouncing). I can do the same pull again and it'll be fine.

I should probably think about getting a set of group N tranny mounts while I'm at it. Or maybe I can swap those out some other time.

Vikash - I might have the parts anytime really. When will you be back in DC?

Have you or Matt ever pulled a tranny? Think we could knock it out in a night?

Out of curiousity, what's the break-in for a clutch?