Saw an $800 1986 1.8 RX pull a 14.2 94mph run tonight

douglas vincent · Post by **douglas vincent** » Sat Jun 26, 2004 9:49 am

I was at PIR for the Late Night Drags and up pulls a kid who had purchased a junkyard 1986 RX 4 door for $500. He spent another $125 on a tranny, drivline and rear end (good deal) and another $175 on parts and an ebay intercooler.

His first run was 14.6 @ 82 because 5th was fucked up.

His second and I think last run was 14.2 and 94 mph. He was running 19 lbs of boost on a 1.8 stock engine with about 225 thousand miles on it from a freaking junk yard. This kid had junkyard wars written all over him. His mom was there to cheer him on.

I was ticked that he didnt run again but he may have had some mech difficulties, surprise surprise. However, he may have just wanted to prove a point or his curfew was up.

I did some calculations on a hp calculator and that 1.8 engine was pushing out somewhere between 225 and 250 at the crank. This is a stock 115 hp engine. Crazy kid.

Not bad for $800

BAC5.2 · Post by **BAC5.2** » Sun Jun 27, 2004 1:02 am

HP calculators aren't accurate. A 14.2 is more like 200hp at the crank in a car that light.

douglas vincent · Post by **douglas vincent** » Sun Jun 27, 2004 4:57 am

ok ok, but still impressive no?

BAC5.2 · Post by **BAC5.2** » Sun Jun 27, 2004 5:07 am

Yea, seems pretty cool I suppose.

In pure technobabble, it's not smart (he'd probably be faster with 15psi than with 19) but it's his $800. And for 2 or 3 runs, is it really worth it?

douglas vincent · Post by **douglas vincent** » Sun Jun 27, 2004 5:10 am

I gotta say yes.

BAC5.2 · Post by **BAC5.2** » Sun Jun 27, 2004 5:27 am

Yes it's worth $800 to go kind of fast?

entirelyturbo · Post by **entirelyturbo** » Sun Jun 27, 2004 5:40 am

Excellent numbers for the price, that's for sure. But did it take any talent? No. Buy a turbo car, put a valve in it, turn it, and get 50 instant more HP. He keeps that up and he is going to blow his headgaskets and crack his heads, guaranteed. That car will end up back in the junkyard as fast as he got it out. The EA82T's heads don't hold up well under that kind of power.

douglas vincent · Post by **douglas vincent** » Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:01 am

Did it take any talent? You have to be kidding me. Most of you fucks dont know the end of a wrench to put on a bolt. I have pulled about 4 or 5 engines, redone 6 clutches and rebuilt 2 engines and ask questions. I still ask questions. Have you done as much? This kid gets respect from me.

This kid who is about 19, bought a junkyard turbo 86 Rx for $500. He then proceded to yank by himself a full tranny, driveline and rear end from another junker and then reinstall it in the "new" car. Then he jury rigged a top mount intercooler with a water mister and hood scoop. Alll this for $800.

This aint just turning up the boost, this is a some FUN and some serious happy time. You should have seen the kid standing next to his car as his mom took his picture, grin from ear to ear.

Talent? Yes.

BAC5.2 · Post by **BAC5.2** » Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:19 am

How is it talent? It's turning a wrench. That's not talent. A monkey could pull an engine. If you've got common sense, you can do it. He didn't do any research, or any figuring. He pulled an engine and put it into another car, then he turned a screw. It would have been talent if it was a completely different engine model (like an EJ22T in place of the EA82t), but from what you've said, it wasn't so.

And most of us "fucks" that don't know the end of a wrench HAVE made our own TMIC setups, and our cars last longer than 3 runs. Plus, we are smart enough to run a correct amount of boost for the best performance. Not fall into the "more is better" mindset.

douglas vincent · Post by **douglas vincent** » Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:32 am

Then by your own figuring, you are a monkey. I admit it. End of argument.

BAC5.2 · Post by **BAC5.2** » Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:41 am

Um, I never called anyone a monkey. I said a monkey could do it.

For $800 I'd rather get my car into, or outrageously close to, the 13's and be able to do it in a reliable manner, and even still be able to handle extremely well. Just my opinion. 14.2, 3 times isn't worth $800 to me.

douglas vincent · Post by **douglas vincent** » Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:48 am

OK, I cant stand it, I must reply.

For $800 I can get MY car close too. But remember this is $800 total for christ sake. He bought it, he put time into it and he did it.
For $800. How much did your car cost? and to get it to 14.2? and your are .4 larger to start with and a superior engine to start with. Man, just give the guy props for having fun instead of busting balls.

Also, shouldnt you be in bed, what is it, like 2 am there in MD? or CT or wherever the hell you are?

Also, you "fucks" are my "friends" if you need help and I can do so, i will. Just a little worked up over protecting my personal interest.

THAWA · Post by **THAWA** » Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:59 am

I don't mean to interject, but you guys should calm down. The peaceful joking environment is what keeps people here, not the rudeass comments when someone is trying to express their opinions.

BAC5.2 · Post by **BAC5.2** » Sun Jun 27, 2004 7:01 am

Yea, but $800 for 3 runs. That's like paying $800 for 3 blowjobs from a hooker. Fun when you do it, but you've got nothing to show for it when you are done, and it doesn't take much skill or research to do it.

I'm not busting balls, in fact, I never did such a thing (I said it didn't take talent to do that, it took good deals and luck). I said that I had a better use for $800 than get 3 blowjobs from a hooker. If he thought it was worthwhile to spend that kind of money and have nothing but a peice of paper to show for it, then more power to him and I'm glad he had fun that night.

And don't talk to me like you are my fucking babysitter.

douglas vincent · Post by **douglas vincent** » Sun Jun 27, 2004 1:12 pm

That was a joke son.

entirelyturbo · Post by **entirelyturbo** » Sun Jun 27, 2004 2:01 pm

What the fuck is going on here??? Douglas, you REALLY need to calm down dude. You told us a story and gave your opinion on it, and we responded with our own opinions. God forbid we have different opinions than you!

I give the kid props for making those kind of numbers from only $800. But as Phil said, 3 14-second 1/4-miles isn't worth $800, at least not IMO. I'd rather spend more money to mod the car not only for more power but for handling too.

And I'm sure you were joking about the bedtime thing, uh huh

Like I'm joking about this:

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Sun Jun 27, 2004 2:44 pm

Holy shnikeys, what just happened here?!

Is this still Legacy Central?

LegacyT · Post by **LegacyT** » Sun Jun 27, 2004 4:25 pm

I think its pretty cool that a kid fixed up an RX, you don't see many of those around. And to run 14 sec 1/4 miles, well that'll roast most even modded Legacy turbos, let alone N/A's

Mark,

TheSubaruJunkie · Post by **TheSubaruJunkie** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 8:39 am

Is this still Legacy Central?

I'll need to check my bookmarks. I believe NASIOC got swapped with Legacy Central.

And, trying to pull the subject to a more possitive manner...

The RX is a very good platform. Even if the EA82T cant hold up, but im sure it would look wicked with a ton of boost. Also, did he mention what tranny it had? If it had the stock RX tranny, the low gear would be perfect for the strip. If he practiced his shifting at all, the EA82T would be deadly coupled with the FT4WD in low range.

Get him on the usmb so we can hear his side of the story.

-Brian

kastrix · Post by **kastrix** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 8:58 am

None of my business but...

Trust me, it takes a lot of reserch to find a good deal, i think we can all agree to that. And also, does anyone even know if he ruined the car? COuldnt it have been something minor? It typically is in subaru's isnt it? Some parts are made to break easier to save the important parts, right?

douglas vincent · Post by **douglas vincent** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:21 am

Well, his car survived the drags. He showed up for the rallycross in Hillsboro and did very well. However his car died on his second run for no apparent reason, but then started back up two minutes later and he ran the third run with no problems.

Turns out he is a little older than I thought (late 20's?) so he knows a bit more than most 19 year olds would.

Also he was running AV gas, not pump gas. What is AV gas? Aviation fuel? I dont know.

He is planning to upgrade the stock IHI turbo for a turbo off a Merkur and up the boost a little more so he can break into the 13's.

However, he did blow off his worker assignment and that is a big ass no-no in the vollenteer world and he is banned from running future rallycrosses now. However, I dont know if he knew he was obligated to stick around or not.

kastrix · Post by **kastrix** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:47 am

See so that whole discussion was over nothing. His car survived and he lived to race again. Hella props from me!

evolutionmovement · Post by **evolutionmovement** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 6:18 am

Av gas is aviation fuel. I've been told that its not ideally formulated for cars and can cause problems, but I almost bought a Lamborghini (just an Espada - I'm not rich!) that the guy ran on AV gas and he claimed he never had a problem. Then again, how much could he drive a car that needs a major (and I mean major when talking about that engine) service every 3k miles?

Steve

TDGKORN · Post by **TDGKORN** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:26 pm

Did someone say HOOKER

It seems to me that this board is taking a much more serious tone in the last few months. Its just a legacy web board people, I know we are all serious about our cars. I think it is hard to sense someones tone when posting and people may see a rude comment rather then a little sarcasum (spelling?).

Ofcourse these are only my opinions, and please stop yelling you scaring the children.

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Saw an $800 1986 1.8 RX pull a 14.2 94mph run tonight

Saw an $800 1986 1.8 RX pull a 14.2 94mph run tonight