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I think I found a new source, 1st Generation DSM
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 3:30 am
by ciper
Add a 90 degree bend to the lower left output of this intercooler
In case the image doesnt work
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... gory=33742
another
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... gory=42604
Take those images, flip them horizontally and then rotate 90 degree counterclockwise.
That 90 would connect to the throttle body. The other inlet would be close to the turbo. It would need two 90 degree to enter the turbo.
What do you think?
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 3:48 am
by legacy92ej22t
Am I seeing it correctly, it looks like a triangle? Do you think it'll fit under the hood? Or maybe with the right scoop it would sit up in it. It's hard to tell
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 5:03 am
by ciper
Triangle? I dont see what you mean.
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 5:07 am
by legacy92ej22t
I don't know maybe I'm seeing it wrong but it looks like a 3D triangle in both shots...like an A-frame. It might be a trick of the light though
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 5:21 am
by ciper
I know for sure that the core is a perfect rectangle. The tanks are the same size at the mount. The odd shaped parts are the tank ends.
If this helps, the portion you see in the images will actually be closest to the transmission (each picture is the bottom of the cooler if we used it)
The "lower" tank in the image will be on the drivers side as the outlet while the "upper" tank will be on the passenger side as the inlet. The "bars" on the core will run perpendicular to the vehicles direction of travel.
The intercooler will sit exactly in the middle of the space between the strut towers, not off center like the saab unit.
speaking of which, an upgraded unit for cheap
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 2429265945

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 6:11 am
by legacy92ej22t
Right on. What are the dimensions? Let us know if it works.
That saab i/c is sweet. Too bad I already have one with the plastic end tanks and no money. Someone should jump on it though and sell it to me later

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 1:15 pm
by magicmike
I have been contemplating getting one of these saab ic's for a week now. What is the maximum boost possible withone of these units? I know someone already has one of these on.
Mike
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 1:21 pm
by legacy92ej22t
I've heard they can handle 20-25 psi, how efficient they are at that pressure I don't know though. They are not very big.
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 2:58 pm
by Fernely
magicmike wrote:I have been contemplating getting one of these saab ic's for a week now. What is the maximum boost possible withone of these units? I know someone already has one of these on.
Mike
The Miata crowd has been using this IC with real good results for quite some time. You should have no problems with it.
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 5:02 pm
by magicmike
My over all plan calls for 20 lbs of boost (with all the other proper stuff that is required to get there of course) I was planning on a FMIC but I need something in there so I can at leaste be pushing 12lbs or around there. up to 15 lbs would be very nice. Basically, if this IC can get me well enough to where fuel cut is I should be ok. After that I'll upgrade to a FMIC when I do my injectors and fuel pump and piggyback a/f comp.
Mike
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 6:35 pm
by ciper
Honestly guys Im just trying to help out. I have no plan to use an Air to Air unit or I would have bought one of them already. Im hell bent on a good air to water system.
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 5:51 pm
by magicmike
I picked up an 85/86 ish thunderbird TMIC for 25 bucks! I dont know if it will even fit but its all they had. All the late model saabs there had already been raped. The guy told me that some kid has been going there and taking every one he can find. Can you say ebay?
Mike
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 7:12 pm
by georryan
I bought a tbird intercooler off ebay a while back. It was an 87 one I think. It was too big. Barely though.
-Ryan
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 11:15 pm
by rsstiboy
YUK! don't bother, although I suppose it is better than none at all.
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2003 7:51 am
by -K-
magicmike, you have a 87-88 t-bird IC. They are a good TMIC, if you can get enough air through your hood it will work fine. My brother has an 88 T-bird and 20psi through it, 280hp 2.3L
And you do plan on a new turbo right???
I am loving my Liberty Air-Water IC and would recomend it.
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2003 3:16 pm
by magicmike
I already have a brand new VF34 that cost me a pretty pennie. Its about 80% installed. I'm working on getting it in there as the compressor side is HUGE. When I have it in I will post what I did and photos. In the mean while you can see some pics of the engine rebuild in progress that I posted earlier.
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