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Honda truck (nice)

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:59 am
by legacycontinues
I just saw the new Honda Ridgeline....Holy crap! That thing looks mean. I wonder if it has 2 Vtecs under the hood??

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:01 am
by evolutionmovement
The monster truck version has one in the back and one in the front. Viiinnnngggggg viiinnnnggggg!

Steve

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:02 am
by Yukonart
Nope. . . but it's actually quite the contender. . . ever for the larger domestics. :shock:

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:09 am
by BAC5.2
I don't forsee a good future.

Unibodies are marginally OK for SUV's, but on a truck? Forget it.

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:11 am
by scottzg
BAC5.2 wrote:I don't forsee a good future.

Unibodies are marginally OK for SUV's, but on a truck? Forget it.
Its not a unibody, it has a fully closed rail frame (bettar th3n teh Shevvy)

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:13 am
by Yukonart
And think about it. . . MAYBE 1/2 of all truck buyers (and about 10% of SUV buyers) acutally USE their vehicles in manners persuant to their design.

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:17 am
by evolutionmovement
True of sports cars too, but try selling a 100 HP Ferrari.

Steve

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:22 am
by Yukonart
Ferraris don't have 4-doors and child seat provisions, either.

Besides. . . in either case, many (mal-educated) buyers would prefer image over performance, anyway.

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:29 am
by evolutionmovement
But there is no image here. The truck image, like the sports car image has to be earned from somewhere. I just don't see this being a huge success, but at least Honda is smart enough not to expect it to be. GM with the forthcoming HHR on the other hand ...

Steve

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:31 am
by Yukonart
Honda is merely catering to a light-duty truck crowd that they're probably losing to Toyota in spades. Granted, it's not a real truck, but when it comes to many buyers, brand loyalty is still very important.

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:57 am
by legacycontinues
We all know Hondas get great gas milage...would this be true for this truck? Hondas are reliable....run forever.

I wonder if ricers will get their hands on these and make them sound like leaf blowers?

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:59 am
by scottzg
HHR looks kinda cool. Something to combat the element, rav4, xb, etc.

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:59 am
by BAC5.2
scottzg wrote:
BAC5.2 wrote:I don't forsee a good future.

Unibodies are marginally OK for SUV's, but on a truck? Forget it.
Its not a unibody, it has a fully closed rail frame (bettar th3n teh Shevvy)
"Honda says the Ridgeline has a unitized body, like most passenger cars, but adds a ladder-type frame, like most pickup trucks."

http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosconsum ... -76895.htm

If the cab, and the bed, are attached. I don't want any part of it.

The Ridgeline was designed for women. And for men, who require the approval of women in their purchase of a vehicle.

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:03 am
by AWD_addict
Maybe CRV or Pilot buyers looking for a bed? How many dedicated Honda buyers are going to be looking for a pickup?
I think it's more to bring in new buyers who will be looking at all brands of light truck.

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:24 am
by legacycontinues
I like it. I also like that new nissan truck. They could both kick my Roos ass. All that matters.

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:30 am
by BAC5.2
Buyers aren't stupid though.

At the very least, they will ask themselves the following...

"Why the ridgeline over a Toyota?"

I have a feeling that the same people who bought the Element, are going to buy the Ridgeline. And if that's the case, the model will last just a few years if we are lucky.

I see absolutely NO reason to have the cab and the bed be connected, other than asthetics.

I guess I am the type that uses a truck like it is designed to be used, and the Honda is not designed to be used as a truck is ideally thought.

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:38 am
by skid542
I have to agree with Phil on this one, if the body and bed on a truck are connected, nope not for me. I know what a good work truck is and have been around them all my life, it's gotta be able to flex and take a beating. However, if this isn't meant to be a work truck, eh... I guess it's alright for those who want to buy it. If I'm going to get a truck though, it'll be a chevy, a GMC, or a Nissan. We've loaded full pallets of 5/8" 4x8 sheetrock into the bed of the Sierra's at work and they take it in stride, I don't forsee the honda taking comparable loads (for it's size) like a truck should. Maybe I'm just biased against a honda truck.

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:50 am
by BAC5.2
I like Ford's idea of putting trailer brake controls in the F350. That's good thinking, IMO.

For as little as I tow with the need for trailer brake control, I think it'd work just fine for me, even if it's not the best system.

I really like the Titan though. Nissan got it's shit right with that thing.

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:54 am
by legacycontinues
I would own an F-350 but only if it had the diesel engine. Big gas engines belong in old muscle cars. Except the Dodge Ram with the viper engine....thats is just sick.

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:02 am
by skid542
One of my good friends in my RC airplanes club used to work as a Nissan mechanic and is loyal to their trucks and he just got one of the new Titan's. Simply put - it's niiice. And yeah, big gas engines only really belong in muscle cars or supercars (the viper falls somewhere in between but it does have a fitting engine).

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:06 am
by BAC5.2
Skid - Get yourself to a Nissan dealership, and drive one. They drive really well...

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:37 pm
by 91White-T
Trucks and VTEC just dont go together... Also, did anyone see the commercial where they show the engine compartment? The frickin engine's in the wrong way, there's no way a truck should ever have a transversely monted engine... ever.

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:36 pm
by skid542
As usual you're right Phil, I should just take a day during my spring break to go around to the different dealerships and go test driving :). Hehe yeah, that engine just doesn't look quite right does it.

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:57 pm
by legacycontinues
Are we sure the engine is in the "proper" way and it has a shroud over it to give you the impression it is in "funny."

I haven't seen the engine so I don't have a clue...

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:02 pm
by legacy92ej22t
I think it's butt ass ugly. I don't understand the cab and bed being attached. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

Oh and there was already a thread about this. ;)

http://bbs.legacycentral.org/viewtopic.php?t=20132

My brother in law just got a Viper truck about a month ago! I haven't gotten a ride yet but the thing is sick. Bastard already has a Hemi-Ram too. Oh, and he has a '71 Hemi-Cuda 664! He also has some old 60's era Chryslers. That's just the Chryslers though. He has an Austin Healey, an Alfa Graduate, a new F250, an older Chevy 2500, a Ford Excursion, a Chevy C-50 dump truck and tractor/back hoes gallore. Lucky bastard.