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ej22t block is got dohc from ej20k*
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:01 am
by NICO
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:36 am
by kidatari
What are you doing for engine management? This is the setup that I'd like to do eventually.
I'll definately have to check out those pics when I get home, they're blocked from work for me

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:02 am
by NICO
for engine management i am running my greddy-e-manage. the car is going to run perfect with no help from the greddy. all the points for cam timeing are the same as my ej22t heads. im going to use the facotry cam signal sensors.
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:02 am
by Binford
I think your injectors are missing the caps. Have they possibly been modified for more flow? Oh, and,...........I hate you.

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:16 am
by NICO
no i got them from the dealers like that, brand spanking new. maybe there is a cap that goes on there. but we got everthing i could for the injectors. i seen no cap in the pics from the dealers.
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 9:36 pm
by bmxpunk
nico i hate you !!!!!!
I am going to go this route too. are these the heads that you had before?
I need to find a set asap!!!!
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 10:08 pm
by NICO
everyone hates me!!!!!!!! I LOVE YOU ALL hahahha.
no bmxpunk i was going to this place for tien shocks and i seen this motor he gave me the hole motor for a grand, so i got it becuse it used a coil pack.
then i found out what i really got, ej20k makes 280hp japan motor.
so me and my dad striped the hole motor down and lined it all up to my extra ej22t motor i got in the pic on the stand. next saturday i will stick the heads on and start it up, it looks good so far so will see once we put it on if it runs ok. my dad siad it will work perfect so i think it will be perfect to.
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 10:36 pm
by evolutionmovement
The timing could be different according to that pic of the sprockets you took depending on where the pin fits in the slot of the cams. I don't know how the timing's oriented on the different cams, but those pins are off about 40 degrees in relation to each other. Just something to check out, but where this has been done before, it's probably a non-issue.
Steve
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 10:49 pm
by NICO
thats what i was just telling my dad evolutionmovement i dont no whats going to happen, i wonder if i could just use my stock steel one in its place. or maybe it needs a little bit of timeing becuse its a dohc heads.
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:26 am
by NICO
i got a question for VRG3 the master electrical MAN?
the new intake manifold i got has a 3 wire hitachi throtle body, red white black wire.
ej22t motor throttle body uses a 4 wire red white black BROWN wire.
if i wanted to use the ej20k throttle body what do i do with the extra brown wire my ej22t motor has? can i tap it in to something to make it work like factory or i got to use my ej22t throttle body.
i ask this becuse i got to mount the throttle body upside down.

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:31 am
by dzx
Put it to tdc and note the relation of the timing mark to the cam sensor, then check it in relation to the original cam gear and heads.
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:37 am
by NICO
dzx what do you mean = TDC.
the cam sensor is only a 2 wire on the ej20k, but the ej22t one use a 3wire sensor, i was going to use my factory sensor to make it.
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:51 am
by dzx
Sorry, Top dead center. It's the arrow on the crank pulley. This is to check to see if you need to knock the pin out and drill put a new one in.
As for the sensor, i'd just use the original one like you plan on doing.
*edit: it looks like the marks on your new timing gear are magnetic whereas the ones on your original timing gear aren't so I don't know if that would work with your original sensor. You might have to cut your ej22t gear and fit it on there to work.
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:52 am
by bmxpunk
TDC =top dead center for piston 1
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:04 am
by NICO
o ok, the ej20k use the same crank pulley everything is the same on that even the lock pin and the teeth it has are the same position.
if you look at the pic of the stock cam pulley and the new pulley side bye side you can see there off just a bit where you line them up, my dad siad becuse its a dohc thats how they set it up and it will run perfect.
so i should just use my stock throttle body, but its going to be upside down and the screw on the top will be down on the bottom, then i cant paly with it.
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:08 am
by dzx
What you want to find is where the cam gear is at TDC in relation to the cam sensor because you want this to be the same as what was on the sohc. Find out if those marks on the new gear are magnetic, cause that could cause a problem for you also.
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:15 am
by NICO
i just checked DZX ya they are magnets now what the hell.
the ej20k uses a 2wire campulley sensor and my ej22t uses a 3 wire campulley sensor what do i do
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:37 am
by evolutionmovement
I'd like to see what the magnet deal would do. It may still work as the sensor measures the change in magnetic flux, which should signal the same, but then it may just confuse the ECU.
Steve
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:43 am
by NICO
i dont no there is 3 wires on the ej22t one, if you look at the wire book the extra wire goes as a shield then to ground, if i dont hook up that wire and put the two wires from my ej22t motor to this ej20k cam sensor do you think it would work.
even the cam sproket has the same thing the end of the plug on the ej22t has 3 wires but the sensor on it only uses 2 pines for two wires. i think there just shields.
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:52 am
by bmxpunk
so nico, did you have these heads ported?
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 2:12 am
by dzx
Vikash might be able to answer the question about the cam sensor circuit. It might work. I'm putting my stock cam gear on the wrx heads i have. Still waiting for my uncle to cut the gear to fit on the cam though.
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:33 pm
by vrg3
Yeah, just use your stock camshaft position sensor. Even if the pips were aligned slightly differently it wouldn't matter, since it's only used to identify which cylinder is in which stroke.
Use your stock throttle body and stock TPS if it's at all possible. That extra wire is for the idle switch.
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:55 pm
by NICO
thanks vrg3
so this is what i am going to use, stock ej22t crank angle sensor + stock ej22t cam angle sensor, then i am going to slap on the ej20k heads and the factory cams it came with, should i be worried about the diffrence of the cam becuse it use magnets on the ej20k cam for pick up? and my factory cam is off a little from the ej20k ones, but the points of pick up are the same.
ok i will stick my throttle body stock ej22t one on, its going to be up side down but i can make it work.
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:03 pm
by vrg3
The stock pips aren't magnetized?
I think it'll be fine. Magnetic field reluctance will still change and the voltage induced in the coil will still cross zero.
Why are you going to mount the throttle body upside-down?
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:32 pm
by NICO
whats a pips vrg3? the cam that gives the cam sensor its reading (ej20k plastic cam) has magnets for its pick up. my ej22t cam is made of steel and it has bumps not magnets.
ej20k cam on the right and stock ej22t left.
on the ej20k intake manifold it has the ideal speed control vavle on the top corner. if i put my ej22t throttle body on it gets in the way of the springs to open it.
