Fender/Door braces

4subaru · Post by **4subaru** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:40 am

I was wondering if anyone has these on their car or are interested in them?

subytech · Post by **subytech** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:02 am

I've recently stumbled onto them and they look like a good idea, dont know if they would fit on our cars, but they look very interesting.

4subaru · Post by **4subaru** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:19 am

I haven't found any that fit our cars, but since i have experience with computer 3D modeling, i was going to design some for our cars, might even try for lower strut tower braces or sub frame connectors.

evolutionmovement · Post by **evolutionmovement** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 4:01 am

Shouldn't Impreza ones fit?

n2x4 · Post by **n2x4** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:38 am

Yah, GC impreza lower strut bars, or control arm braces whatever you want to call them fit the legacy. They go for pretty cheap on ebay.

4subaru · Post by **4subaru** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:24 pm

What years are the GC impreza and do you know if any of the other impreza braces fit?

n2x4 · Post by **n2x4** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:32 pm

GC is like 1993 to 2000 if I remember correctly.

Whiteline aftermarket front sway bars use the same part number between GC impreza and our legacy.

Front strut tower bars are the same too.

That's all I can think of off the top of my head. The impreza and legacy have a lot in common.

Post by **Legacy777** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:12 pm

n2x4 wrote:GC is like 1993 to 2000 if I remember correctly.

1993-2001

BAC5.2 · Post by **BAC5.2** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:20 pm

GD door braces (like the ones made by GTSpec) won't work on our cars.

I don't know of any fender braces for the GC chassis that won't cost a hundred thousand dollars.

We did put the GTspec braces on an 05 STi (along with every other possible GTspec brace) and the results were amazing. The car had the chassis rigidity similar to another 05 STi we have with a rollcage in it. It was wild. Rollcage rigidity, without having to monkey over and around door bars. If there were some available for the GC chassis Impreza, I'd probably put them on the Forester to try and regain some chassis stiffness.

azn2nr · Post by **azn2nr** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:37 am

cn: gtspec fender braces work on gc chassis.

:edit: i just checked, and gc spesfic braces are now avaible from gtspec with different part numbers. but i do know that they do fit. A because i tried adn B because i sold some to someone on nasioc while working at rallysport

:edit 2: after examining the pictures i took under teh cobb time attack car adn teh pictures on the gtspec website i beive teh under braces namely the 3 piece set will work on teh gc and other compaibile chassis ie bc legacy. and here is why. any chages in length of the car are behind the tranny. i say this because i belive the legacy (im actualy not sure on this but still pretty posotive) has teh 3 piece tranny crossmember. the 1.8 gc trans crossmember was only a single piece yet the gd xmemeber fits as well as the newer gc 3 piece xmember rs et al. the only differences is in the h braces so thoes should be car spesfic. i think though youd have to use the gd h brace somehow so that you could use teh 3 piece brace kit.

i dont know about the door braces becuase ive never seen them (im pretty familar with the gtspec catologue up until april ish) but the fender braces do in fact fit the gc chassis so im sure though not posotive that they work on on the bc chassis since everything other than the extra 2 inch wheelbase is the same.

my garage mate while i was still putting in an effort on my gc had the gtspec braces for his bugeye. since my fenders were off i took one and lined it up. belive it or not the frame rail under teh fender has a hole thats tapped ( has a nut welded behind it) but pluged where the brace bolts up. their a perfect fit adn illl be getting some as soon as my car is finished

also nitrodon on nasioc just put the entire front wrx subframe on his gc. so i reckon ohter than the h brace which has already shown fittement issues with pre wrx downpipes (even though my entire exahust is for a wrx) all if not just most of the gtspec bracing will work on at least the gc.

farfrumwork · Post by **farfrumwork** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:54 pm

I have fender braces from TIC (Turn in Concepts) on my '93 SS.

They replace an existing set of factory bent steel braces, so the holes are there to just bolt on.
I like them, they have made the front end more "planted". As we all know, this chassis need all the help it can get.

They are about $100.

FWIW - Other suspension mods include: Whitleline end links and rear lock bolts, Cusco F strut tower bar (version for the GC), and GR2's.

BAC5.2 · Post by **BAC5.2** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:39 am

Pic of the TIC brace? I'll have to call Clint about a set for my SF. Especially if they are GTspec clones!

4subaru · Post by **4subaru** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:38 am

I looked at their web site, it looks like they just built a stiffer version of the stock braces. GTspec braces are triangle shaped with 4 mounting places while the TIC one has only two mounting places.

Within a couple weeks, I hope to design my own fender/door brace that will fit my 90 legacy. With any luck, I can mirror GTspec's design and have it it fit my car.

0perose · Post by **0perose** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:01 am

TONS of posts over on NASIOC re: fender braces

BAC5.2 · Post by **BAC5.2** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:10 pm

Pic of the TIC brace? I'll have to call Clint about a set for my SF. Especially if they are GTspec clones!

azn2nr · Post by **azn2nr** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:23 pm

Here's a couple of pics:
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Post by **Legacy777** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:36 pm

pic of it installed?

azn2nr · Post by **azn2nr** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:59 pm

whats the point in that. they look the dam same and they fit. isnt that all you need to know?

n2x4 · Post by **n2x4** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:09 pm

azn2nr wrote:whats the point in that. they look the dam same and they fit. isnt that all you need to know?

lol
So are these the exact same as the RS braces from TIC?

Looking at the pic, it seems so, unless the dimensions are different.

Adam West · Post by **Adam West** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:57 am

I guess the real question is how hard are they to install? Some can be installed without taking off the fender (I think) with other cars that's impossible. What about our cars?

azn2nr · Post by **azn2nr** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 12:16 am

with the 2 pointers (tic) i think its pointless because well its no better than stock sti ones. youll need to take off the fender and 2 bolts on the door hinge

id get 3 pointers personaly (nasiga and gtspec). for thoes youll need to take off the fender and bascily the door

Adam West · Post by **Adam West** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:37 am

And they do what? I know, stiffer is better but is it a noticable improvement for the effort? Taking off the fender isnt really all that easy...

jamal · Post by **jamal** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:40 am

azn2nr wrote:with the 2 pointers (tic) i think its pointless because well its no better than stock sti ones. youll need to take off the fender and 2 bolts on the door hinge

id get 3 pointers personaly (nasiga and gtspec). for thoes youll need to take off the fender and bascily the door

The 3-point ones seem unnecessary to me. The frame is there and is already stiff enough. The goal with these is to stiffen up the connection, which really only requires a better diagonal brace.

azn2nr · Post by **azn2nr** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 11:20 pm

umm kinda but not the way i see it. if you look at the frame under teh fender and the way its shaped and what the brace is suposed to do youll see why the 3 pointers are better. the force pushes up but there is nothing in a 2 pointer that really keeps it down and flat. the 2 pointer only pulls down whereas the 3 pointers counteract the upward motion of the fender/frame as well as pulling down.

Adam West · Post by **Adam West** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 12:44 am

I think they are cool. Probably only do it when I gold plate my car tho...

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