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WRX TMIC + Cruise Control = What BOV/BPV/DV Options?
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:49 pm
by High PSI
Ok, so:
1) Stock DV with the electrical box plate and 90 degree copper elbow off of the WRX TMIC.
What Else?
2) Turbo XS Type-H with Turbo XS Adapter?
What others have people gotten to work? Recirc. or atmosphere?
I thought it would be good to have all of these listed in one post for future reference... (and for myself for now

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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:23 pm
by Imprezive
know anyone that can weld? try finding one of those weldable BOV flanged for the TMIC, then get some like 1" tubing and weld a 90 degree on it that angles off to the driverside?
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:29 pm
by High PSI
Imprezive wrote:know anyone that can weld?
Unfortunately I don't.

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:38 pm
by t3h_Clap
is there a reason a stock WRX BOV wont work?
assuming you plumbed it back into the intake.
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:47 pm
by High PSI
I think the recirc elbow gets in the way of the cruise cable, if not the throttle cable itself. It tends to bleed off a bit of air at idle, too, so if you pull the recirc elbow off you'll have problems at idle (in addition to the typical WOT problems of venting metered air to the atmosphere with an MAF car)
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:55 pm
by t3h_Clap
High PSI wrote:I think the recirc elbow gets in the way of the cruise cable, if not the throttle cable itself. It tends to bleed off a bit of air at idle, too, so if you pull the recirc elbow off you'll have problems at idle (in addition to the typical WOT problems of venting metered air to the atmosphere with an MAF car)
I'll have to take a closer look of where the WRX BOV would be.
I'm familair with the "issues" of venting to atmosphere.
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:26 am
by Bane
you know... i'm really curious... i have a blitz bov, 100% atmospheric... and i'm not having any problems that i can find due to this... 3+ months of running it now.
i assume this is because i'm auto, and the only time it vents is when i'm taking my foot off the throttle; as opposed to venting during shifting on acceleration?
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 3:39 pm
by Imprezive
Maybe the APS BOV.
Look for it, its attatched to a long tube and has a 90 degree into the IC
http://www.airpowersystems.com.au/wrx/blow.htm
Scroll Down a little bit...
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:59 pm
by High PSI
What about an HKS SSQV? Someone offered me one for a really good price...

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 5:28 pm
by Bane
several guys up here are running the hks, and as far as i can tell, it's the loudest one out here.
my blitz has 2 settings, one low and one high. the low one makes almost no noise. the high one, makes the typical "pshht" noise. not too overbearing.
the hks ssqv whistles, unless you do the whistle delete.
it's very loud, and can attract a lot of attention.
It's also the only one i've noticed that triggers while revving the car in neutral...
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:04 pm
by High PSI
Bane wrote:several guys up here are running the hks, and as far as i can tell, it's the loudest one out here.
my blitz has 2 settings, one low and one high. the low one makes almost no noise. the high one, makes the typical "pshht" noise. not too overbearing.
the hks ssqv whistles, unless you do the whistle delete.
it's very loud, and can attract a lot of attention.
It's also the only one i've noticed that triggers while revving the car in neutral...
Yeah. I've got the SSQV on my eclipse, though for the week I had it before the engine blew up, it was always recirculated, and wasn't that loud. I guess if I don't like the sound I can always steal the recirc. kit off of the Eclipse and run it on this car. I also have a "gold" and "purple" insert that came with it, so I could play around with those too to see if I like either of those sounds better.
I know what it sounds like and I like the sound...I just want to make sure that it will physically fit before I buy the thing.

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:23 pm
by Bane
gotcha...
judging by this photo on the hksusa.com site
i should think it would clear the cables for the throttle, but when i looked on the site, i couldn't find any flange only kits for the wrx intercooler, just complete setups for $$$.
the only part of my BOV that comes close to the throttle cables in the flange itself, the rest of the BOV points to the drivers side fender away from the TB and cables.
hope that helps.
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:36 pm
by High PSI
Hmmm....Well, it looks like that's off a WRX, but I guess they have the TB and CC cables on the other side. That does give me a good idea of how it comes off the TMIC, though, so the pic helps in that sense.
The deal I got is on a complete kit - SSQV with the flange, so I should have everything I need for the install. IF I pick it up.

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:47 pm
by Bane
here's a photo from the same angle of my intercooler and bov.
the only thing you can't see in either photo is going to be depth of the connector between the flange and the bov itself...in my case it's a solid column, with the HKS unit it stands off the flange by a bit.

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:03 pm
by High PSI
What model Blitz BOV is that?
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:22 pm
by Bane
Blitz Dual Drive BOV
here's a couple of BOV up for sale that work on a wrx intercooler in our cars.
turbosmart BOV ($60cdn)
http://www.toronto-subaru-club.com/foru ... hp?t=95996
Blitz BOV ($140cdn obo)
http://www.toronto-subaru-club.com/foru ... ight=blitz
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:34 pm
by Imprezive
I'm tellin ya get the APS one! Its Recirce and everything, what more could you ask for?
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:46 pm
by Bane
lol, a working website?
j/k,
yeah, obviously if you can recreate the stock environment with a recirc BOV you may as well...
however, like you said, there is a recirce kit for the HKS and if you can get a good deal on it... more power to you.
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:47 pm
by High PSI
Imprezive wrote:I'm tellin ya get the APS one! Its Recirce and everything, what more could you ask for?
A lower price!

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:51 pm
by High PSI
Plus in all honestly I love the sound of an atmos dump BOV. If it's going to cause drivability issues then to hell with it, but I've read good things on these boards about guys running atmospheric with the HKS SSQV or the Greddy Type-S. Also, I just put on my new 3" SS cat-less TBE and I'd love to scare the crap out of people with a couple fireballs between shifts.

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:53 pm
by Bane
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:57 pm
by Imprezive
ahhh I see!
Maybe a used Worx? Those are a dual stage BOV. They can be set to 50% Atmo dump 50% Recirculation.
I think Forge makes a dump valve that will clear it. And those are super cheap!
Check it out!
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthr ... ?t=1128568
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:16 pm
by High PSI
Yeah, I don't think those will work becase they use the stock WRX recirc fitting which angles straight into the CC cable, if not the TB cable as well.

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:42 pm
by Imprezive
Well I'd scan NASIOC if I were you, I saw several TXS BOV's on there like last week.
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:48 pm
by High PSI
Imprezive wrote:Well I'd scan NASIOC if I were you, I saw several TXS BOV's on there like last week.
I'm on it.

I'm just trying to verify what my options are...