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Did my uppipe this morning

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:48 pm
by douglas vincent
Did this this morning.... Made the uppipe.

Parts......

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Used an existing manifold flange and pipe, welding it to the extra intercooler pipe I had

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The turbo flange is 2.75 opening and I had to get there from a 2" pipe, so I bought two reducers and welding them in and up!

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And the finished product.

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Cost me $10 for the two reducers and the flange.

Next is the downpipe and 3" exhaust. I am probably going external wastegate, if the Audi 5000 wastegate I got an EBAY is any good.

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:56 pm
by livestrong14
great work man! +1,000 for inexpensive parts!

You need to stop by our shop sometime!

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:03 pm
by Kelly
You water test those welds? :shock:

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:26 am
by thehookeup
i love the welds buddy, they look AWESOME. do you sense my sarcasim? haha jk

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:15 am
by 206er
couple things about the welds-
turn up the heat for the inside 90's on the flanges, down a little for the butt welds. the heat for the weld connecting the two reducer pieces looks about perfect. some of the others I gaurantee you will crack, probably pretty quickly.
let a puddle form before you start moving
what wire setup are you using? some welds look like the wire is sticking a little bit or something.
if its flux core you ought to take some time to really learn how to use the stuff, its much harder than solid wire and gas.

you going turbo now?

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:15 am
by douglas vincent
Finished the downpipe..... Its just 2.5" for now, didnt have any 3"

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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:17 am
by douglas vincent
thehookeup wrote:i love the welds buddy, they look AWESOME. do you sense my sarcasim? haha jk

Ummmmmmmmmm, and you're talking? :-D

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:38 am
by douglas vincent
If I could weld aluminium, and had the oil line, the damn thing would have started tonight!
>:D

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Notice how the turbo out goes so nicely into the supercharger! :)

Also notice how restricted my inlet to the turbo is :(

I plan on making a weird box thing with flat filter for the air box.....

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:42 am
by stipro
I like it, your crazy, but I like it. Your a real enthusiest!! :-D

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:09 am
by douglas vincent
206er wrote:couple things about the welds-
turn up the heat for the inside 90's on the flanges, down a little for the butt welds. the heat for the weld connecting the two reducer pieces looks about perfect. some of the others I gaurantee you will crack, probably pretty quickly.
let a puddle form before you start moving
what wire setup are you using? some welds look like the wire is sticking a little bit or something.
if its flux core you ought to take some time to really learn how to use the stuff, its much harder than solid wire and gas.

you going turbo now?

I am using .030 wire, CO2....

I am getting better. :?

on the inside of the turbo flange, I also welded the inside and ground it down, that should help alot....

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:46 pm
by scuzzy
douglas vincent wrote:
206er wrote:couple things about the welds-
turn up the heat for the inside 90's on the flanges, down a little for the butt welds. the heat for the weld connecting the two reducer pieces looks about perfect. some of the others I gaurantee you will crack, probably pretty quickly.
let a puddle form before you start moving
what wire setup are you using? some welds look like the wire is sticking a little bit or something.
if its flux core you ought to take some time to really learn how to use the stuff, its much harder than solid wire and gas.

you going turbo now?

I am using .030 wire, CO2....

I am getting better. :?

on the inside of the turbo flange, I also welded the inside and ground it down, that should help alot....
Not that I'm ragging on you, but do a lot more test welding on scrap before welding a finished product that you're going to put into use - otherwise it's not going to last long.


Using pure CO2 gas, while that works, is encouraging oxide formation and will eventually trash the welds - sooner rather than later; get CO2 and Argon mix, like 80% Argon and 20% CO2

a little more expensive, but you won't get near as much splatter, the arc will be easier to control

I've also heard that a mix of 70% Argon, 28% CO2 and 2% O2 is starting to become more popular for welding steel, but I haven't used this combination myself.

Anyway, it looks like the pure CO2 is making your arc hard to control, dump it in favor of a mix and you'll have an easier time getting better :)

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:32 pm
by 555BCTurbo
scuzzy wrote:



Not that I'm ragging on you, but do a lot more test welding on scrap before welding a finished product that you're going to put into use - otherwise it's not going to last long.


Using pure CO2 gas, while that works, is encouraging oxide formation and will eventually trash the welds - sooner rather than later; get CO2 and Argon mix, like 80% Argon and 20% CO2

a little more expensive, but you won't get near as much splatter, the arc will be easier to control

I've also heard that a mix of 70% Argon, 28% CO2 and 2% O2 is starting to become more popular for welding steel, but I haven't used this combination myself.

Anyway, it looks like the pure CO2 is making your arc hard to control, dump it in favor of a mix and you'll have an easier time getting better :)
A lot of that is not accurate...

Running pure CO2 is not really a problem, apart from it just makes it more difficult to weld...as the bead is more likely to be contaminated... Your welds don't look too bad for a beginner, or for doing it on round stuff (total PITA!)

On your next bottle fill, I would suggest running 75/25 (75% argon and 25% C02)...That is what I use and the welds turn out really nice. (plus I have been welding for a few years lol)

Scuzzy, the gas you were alluding to is AB trimix...but it is a mix of Argon, Co2, and Nitrogen...and is used for welding stainless, which requires a hotter arc...so I wouldn't recommend its use on mild steel

Keep on truckin' Doug!!

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:19 pm
by douglas vincent
All of the pipe has been stainless.

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:00 pm
by scuzzy
555BCTurbo wrote:
scuzzy wrote:



Not that I'm ragging on you, but do a lot more test welding on scrap before welding a finished product that you're going to put into use - otherwise it's not going to last long.


Using pure CO2 gas, while that works, is encouraging oxide formation and will eventually trash the welds - sooner rather than later; get CO2 and Argon mix, like 80% Argon and 20% CO2

a little more expensive, but you won't get near as much splatter, the arc will be easier to control

I've also heard that a mix of 70% Argon, 28% CO2 and 2% O2 is starting to become more popular for welding steel, but I haven't used this combination myself.

Anyway, it looks like the pure CO2 is making your arc hard to control, dump it in favor of a mix and you'll have an easier time getting better :)
A lot of that is not accurate...

Running pure CO2 is not really a problem, apart from it just makes it more difficult to weld...as the bead is more likely to be contaminated... Your welds don't look too bad for a beginner, or for doing it on round stuff (total PITA!)

On your next bottle fill, I would suggest running 75/25 (75% argon and 25% C02)...That is what I use and the welds turn out really nice. (plus I have been welding for a few years lol)

Scuzzy, the gas you were alluding to is AB trimix...but it is a mix of Argon, Co2, and Nitrogen...and is used for welding stainless, which requires a hotter arc...so I wouldn't recommend its use on mild steel

Keep on truckin' Doug!!
Just speaking what I know and have been taught, 555; and I thought he was using stainless, hence an argon mix would make it easier to weld.

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:51 pm
by Kelly
Stainless is always tuff to weld hot enough, why I usually use mild for pipe sets. Dougs welder actually works pretty damn well. I used it to peice together some stainless last week, and ya, the CO2 is going away as soon as the bottle is empty. Its just kind of hard to waste what you already got especially when on a budget.

I've never had good luck with the trimix either. Sure its hot, but it really sucks just blowin through everything you touch with it.

Id just water test it, and if it cracks, fuggit. Just reach back up there and fix it when it does. :-D

Doug, I love ya man. You are an excellent friend and an inspiration to me. Cant wait to see that thing beat modded STI's.

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:04 am
by 206er
Ive heard(and there is a lot of hearsay when it comes to welding technique and specs) that pure argon is the way to go for SS.

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:17 am
by douglas vincent
Here I am welding.

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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 3:40 am
by gto7419
hehehe, that is an awesome picture... :-D

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 3:51 am
by douglas vincent
I found an AWESOME FREE stainless bar for building brackets....

They are called knives!

Just get some stainless knives for free from the kitchen and weld them up!

Or go to Goodwill and get some for $0.25 each.....

I welded up a stainless butter knive to a stainless tube. Damn strong weld...

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:33 am
by gto7419
douglas vincent wrote: Just get some stainless knives for free from the kitchen and weld them up!

Are you really married????? :shock:

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:46 am
by thehookeup
doug im suprised she didnt kill you, or does she know. by the way awesome pic of you welding hahahahaha

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:04 am
by jake15
she didn't have any way to kill him.... he welded all the knives to his car :lol:

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:11 am
by thehookeup
jake15 wrote:she didn't have any way to kill him.... he welded all the knives to his car :lol:

i dont know why but i think that is quote of the year. hahaha

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:26 am
by Kelly
douglas vincent wrote:
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And this pic of Dougs children are my new desktop. :-D

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:25 am
by AWD_addict
Butter knife brackets are an awesome innovation.
Kelly wrote:And this pic of Dougs children are my new desktop.
You and your box of kittens in the van. :lol: