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Turbo to Supercharger is done.....

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:31 am
by douglas vincent
"All" done and running!

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I have a pinhole exhuast leak on the downpipe, I need to wrap the turbo with insulation, and one or two other odds and ends, but the damn thing is TITS!

Of course, I still have to drive it.....

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:43 am
by gto7419
Nice job - can we get some closer up pics?

Did you ever get an intake on that thing?

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:13 am
by Threshld1
video and sound of this thing running would be amazing

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:32 am
by douglas vincent
So I just took it out and drove it up and down the freeway once....... about 8 low rpm pulls, never more than 4500 rpm...

First annoying problem...

Down pipe is too "long" and exhaust hits the most minor of speed bumps.... I will have to pull the downpipe off and cut about 1-2" out of it. I will fix that pinhole leak around the downpipe turbine side flange while I am at it...

Second annoying problem...

Seems to be ALOT of oil getting jizzed everywhere.. Since its night, and now I am home from the shop, I couldnt look for where it coming from, but I am pretty sure I need to install a different bango bolt into the block, or make an inline brass restrictor.


Third problem....

Not sure, havent driven it long enough... ;D




THE GOOD NEWS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

IT WORKS!

Its fast as shit

8 psi at 1500 rpm
11 psi at 2500 rpm
16 psi at 3500 rpm

16 psi stays rock steady....

Its fast as shit!

4 extra psi is alot!

And I still havent taken over 4500 rpm!

Its an easy 230-240 whp right now, and you can tell...


Now to fix those problems, and get a boost controller.....

And fab some sort of air filter!

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:58 am
by skid542
Doug, I never really know what to tell you when you pull off these completely b*tch'n projects...

You're the man in every sense of the phrase and a true Subaru God.


We want vids with sound when you can too :).

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:58 am
by jnorion
I saw this in person tonight, it looks badass and it's fucking LOUD. Wish I could have ridden in it. It's crazy.

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:55 am
by jake15
come to the meet i'm planning doug!!! and i can give you that front bumper skin i have for you then too :D i have to see this beast in person :lol:

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:42 pm
by n2x4
More pics! Looks really awesome though!

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:52 pm
by livestrong14
Amazing work man! a True Subie God!

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:39 am
by douglas vincent
Ok.... "good news"

90% sure I fixed the oil leak, thank god. Had a banjo bolt that wasnt tight where it connected to the oil line, and I was using a waterline banjo bolt, so I turned a brass insert, pressed it in, and drilled out a much smaller hole.... Not leaking now I think....

Redid the ENTIRE exhaust....CHRIST, if I could have, I would have paid an exhuast shop to do it. But I lifted the exhaust 2" up, so now its about 3" from the ground, still way too low, but fine for city driving... And I cut out the catalytic converter, and when I looked in it, IT WAS HOLLOW!!!!!!!! WTF?!?!? I have no clue how that happened. I didnt hollow it, I couldnt have since I didnt have a working welder until recently.... And I still passed DEQ... ?

Then I took it out again....


"bad news"

Putt putted it too the on-ramp..... got to third gear, at 2000 rpm, floored it.... Jump straight to 8-9 psi, then 12, then right up to 16, and it held it PERFECT to 6200 rpm, where I shifted.....

And POW!!!!! Blow off the fucking intake at the MAF.... So, I either need to install a 2nd BOV, or more likely, reinstall a WOT switch for the supercharger... I suspect that while I let off the throttle, which should give the BOV a vacumn signal so it would open, the supercharger was still getting a tad too much boost signal, and so stayed on for the split second it took to overboost the intake system, and blow off MAF. No big deal.

All in all, I am pretty damn happy. The motor and pull was amazing. 16psi had no knock.. I am 100% sure that 20 psi is going to be fine come this Saturday Dyno Day, as long as I get these damn annoying pesky problems out of the way.

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:22 am
by 206er
that is amazing. safe to say you are one of if not the ONLY twin charged legacy of any gen in the world, something to be damn proud of. certainly the only BC.
what kind of #'s do you think it will do on the dyno, and what are you hoping to run in the 1/4 now?

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:33 pm
by BAC5.2
8psi at 1500rpm, that's awesome.

You have some kind of mesh or something in front of the turbo inlet?

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:19 pm
by jnorion
BAC5.2 wrote:You have some kind of mesh or something in front of the turbo inlet?
Haha, right now you could put your finger in the turbine.

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:22 pm
by Carbix
why not use something like this http://cgi.ebay.ca/VW-G60-G-lader-Super ... dZViewItem
in place of the A/C looks like it would fit... just a lil fab for mounts

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:34 pm
by 206er
they don't call those grenade60's for nothing.

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:30 am
by AWD_addict
G-laders are so complex. I wouldn't use that unless I had to.

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:27 am
by BAC5.2
Why not? It looks like a nice compact unit.

Are they just horribly inefficient?

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:16 am
by Radial GT1
Heh, Duct tape! Teh sweet

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:11 am
by 206er
BAC5.2 wrote:Why not? It looks like a nice compact unit.

Are they just horribly inefficient?
yeah, also pretty undersized and problematic, plus kinda expensive compared to eatons and nowhere near as good as a lhysolm.

wtf?? :lol:
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:15 am
by douglas vincent
I looked at those alot on EBAY.

Bang for the buck they sucked...

Reliability they sucked....

They suck.,....

My M62 is shot to shit, bearings noticable, rotors very very worn (if I replaced this unit with the "new" unit I have, I would gain 20 hp probably) but damn, it still goes!

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:42 pm
by BAC5.2
Why is it blown up?

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:11 am
by NICO
that thing must fucking fly WOW, was so going to do that long time ago nice work.

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:15 am
by IronMonkeyL255
This is such an awesome project.

Can't wait until it's working 100%

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:23 am
by i_c_the_light
You scare me, well done.

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:36 am
by douglas vincent
18.5 psi and 11-1 or better AFR.....