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Best Steering rack

Post by georryan »

So with all the information, and the recent info form subyluvr, is the best rack for our cars the stock one? I keep hearing about the GT rack, but it's slower: 16.5:1 vs 16:1?

Is the Non-turbo rack and the turbo rack the same?
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Post by entirelyturbo »

The GT rack is indeed slower. I researched it in the FSMs.

In fact, the ONLY EJ-series rack that is quicker than ours is the STi. Even the WRX ones are slower than ours.

Turbo and NA racks are the same, same part number even.

I currently have a brand-new, OEM, steering rack, with Whiteline bushings, with the smaller JDM Momo steering wheel.

It's almost dangerous how quickly the steering reacts; I've overcut corners on several occasions since. It's been an interesting practice in recalibrating my driving style.

Conversely, everytime I drive my girlfriend's RS (original rack and bushings), I almost think there's something wrong with it because the steering reacts so slowly in comparison.
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Post by IronMonkeyL255 »

I need to replace my rack soon.......

Nice info to have. I noticed mine was leaking where the pinion shaft enters the rack housing while I was installing my superpro rack bushings.

Need to rebuild my pump and replace the return line first, though.
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Post by Legacy777 »

That's really interesting to know our rack is quicker.....I thought it was said to have been slower.....someone swapped racks before and said it felt better with the newer GT rack....hmmm

I still think a good idea to reduce assist is to replace the relief valve spring with a slightly less sprung spring, which will relieve pressure at a lower pressure, and "should" reduce the amount of assist. However, I'd have to probably send the spring off to be checked....and then try a few different ones to see what worked best.

Hell I could probably make my own test rig. I'd just need to get a hold of one of those springs......anyone have a dead power steering pump they could pull the spring from?
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Post by IronMonkeyL255 »

I have a spare.

I'm gonna rebuild it and replace my current one with it. Once that's done, I have no use for the one that's on there now.
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Post by Legacy777 »

Cool....yeah.....I came up with the idea when I accidently forgot to put the spring back in and had NO power steering...hahaha
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Post by IronMonkeyL255 »

i noticed that in your p/s pump rebuild thread.

I ordered my kit yesterday, so I should hopefully have it by this weekend.
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Post by evolutionmovement »

I have much tighter steering with a smaller diameter steering wheel and slightly wider tires.
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Post by entirelyturbo »

Yeah, the smaller wheel helps too. I had the Momo wheel on before I swapped racks, and I noticed a difference then.

I posted it in that thread where I was speculating on what rack to buy, but I actually ordered a brand-new OEM BD/BK GT rack, and then did that research. That rack sat there for over a month while I decided whether I wanted to just go with that rack or eat the 20% restocking fee and get the correct rack. I ended up doing the latter :(

Could someone who replaced their rack with a GT one have also replaced the bushings, and mistakenly attributed the "better feel" to supposedly having a quicker rack when it was really the new bushings?

I have some PS pump rebuild advice of my own, but I'm gonna put it in Josh's thread for ease of reference and keep this thread about racks.
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