Out of the Legacy World for a while...sort of

Manarius · Post by **Manarius** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 3:48 am

Well, ever since about a month ago, I've been car-less and driving around a gas hungry Corvette. So, tonight I picked up a 1995 Subaru SVX LSi for a daily driver. I know it's not a Legacy, but I couldn't justify getting a AT Legacy when I could get an AT SVX for the same money. I'm still trying to get adjusted to driving a car that doesn't shake when you go past 75 or so

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I'm rather interested to see the common places between the SVX and the Legacy. The EG33 is basically an EJ22 with two cylinders tacked on.

Splinter · Post by **Splinter** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 4:10 am

IIRC the EG33 uses different rod journal diameters, and different wrist pin diameters

entirelyturbo · Post by **entirelyturbo** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 4:14 am

The EJ18E, EJ22 (E or T, doesn't matter), EJ205, and EG33D all have the same part numbers for rods.

Bore and stroke are the same on the EJ22 and EG33.

Jason is right, as far as the shortblock goes, the EG33 is essentially an EJ22 with two extra cylinders.

Edit: I was 99% sure about the b x s, but I just looked it up in the FSMs and I am right. And I know the rod part #'s are the same for sure also. So whoever was trying to put EJ22T parts in an EG33 was 1) not accomplishing anything with the rods and 2) doing something wrong.

555BCTurbo · Post by **555BCTurbo** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 4:17 am

Hey, at least you still have a Subaru...

I really want an SVX...even though they go against most of my car-liking ideals (they look funny and are heavy), I still have a huge thing for them...

I definately see one with a 3.90 MT swap in my future...

and big congrats on the new purchase!!!

Splinter · Post by **Splinter** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 4:23 am

I remember reading a thread on NASIOC who was trying to turbo an SVX... got rods and pistons out of an EJ22T and they wouldn't fit

Splinter · Post by **Splinter** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 4:23 am

555BCTurbo wrote:I definately see one with a 3.90 5MT swap in my future...

I wouldn't do anything but a 6MT in the SVX personally

555BCTurbo · Post by **555BCTurbo** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 4:34 am

Splinter wrote:
555BCTurbo wrote:I definately see one with a 3.90 MT swap in my future...
I wouldn't do anything but a 6MT in the SVX personally

Well...how perfect...because the 6MT is a 3.90

Manarius · Post by **Manarius** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 5:28 pm

A few pics....

http://gallery.discens.org/main.php?g2_itemId=241

PhyrraM · Post by **PhyrraM** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 5:58 pm

SVX is a 3.59:1 rear end. Also is rumored to be a R180. So a WRX 5-speed should be a drop in. 6-speed needs rear gears or possibly a STI differential.

From what I researched long ago (I had the SVX hard on for a while too), the Legacy pedals drop right in. A EJ flywheel is a bolt in. And the transmission crossmember was minor-to-no mods. No 5-speed console exists for the interior. And I don't recall if a off-the-shelf driveshaft from another Suby can work.

Ej22t pistons should drop in. Use the EG33 rods, but I seem to recall them being the same anyways.

Turbo 6-speed SVX. Prolly cheaper and easier then most would admit.

Splinter · Post by **Splinter** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:48 pm

Probably wouldn't be too difficult to put down 400whp with a built engine

Should put it in the low 12s

Adam West · Post by **Adam West** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:31 am

I'm thinking drag car! Get an EM system with launch control - tear out the insides, roll cage, my god that would be freaking cool...Lght up all four wheels in launch. You could lighten that thing up quite a bit by tearing the usual stuff out...but all that glass has to weight a ton. So do you bake driving around in those on a hot day?...

Adam West · Post by **Adam West** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:38 am

I saw one on Craigs list a while back that was two tone...Blue on the bottom silver on top....really sharp. Looked like a darn shark...

So why are these so cheap? Tranny goes south and there's no room in the engine bay to do much...

Oh have you ever seen the intake manifolds on these things. Really nice integrated logo dealy bop. Bit old hunk of metal...

Should be a fun project - Congrats...

evolutionmovement · Post by **evolutionmovement** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:40 am

For all that, make a speedster out of it. Remove the roof and the back seats, cover the back, sandblast the top off the windshield, and weld the doors shut.

Manarius · Post by **Manarius** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 2:13 pm

Adam West wrote:I'm thinking drag car! Get an EM system with launch control - tear out the insides, roll cage, my god that would be freaking cool...Lght up all four wheels in launch. You could lighten that thing up quite a bit by tearing the usual stuff out...but all that glass has to weight a ton. So do you bake driving around in those on a hot day?...

Do you bake? Not from what I can tell. Driving around on an 80 deg day with the sunroof open and windows down I was rather comfortable as long as I was moving. I'm still not a big fan of leather and that contributes to my heat rating.

BAC5.2 · Post by **BAC5.2** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 6:01 pm

The 95 is OBD1, right?

I dig the SVX. I almost got one instead of getting the Forester, but I knew I'd never end up doing a 5 or 6 speed swap.

Manarius · Post by **Manarius** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:19 pm

AFAIK, it is still OBDI. Right now I'm trying to figure out if 230hp is enough to break rubber in AWD. I floored it in the rain today and I'm wondering if the car's AWD is working correctly....

BAC5.2 · Post by **BAC5.2** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:38 am

Did you buy an FWD SVX? That could be your problem right there...

entirelyturbo · Post by **entirelyturbo** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:17 am

If it's an LSi, then it's AWD. Only L and LS SVXs in 94 and 95 were FWD.

Manarius · Post by **Manarius** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:36 am

BAC5.2 wrote:Did you buy an FWD SVX? That could be your problem right there...

Oh no. It's AWD for sure. It has the pumpkin in the rear. The FWD fuse is not installed either. Sometimes it feels like it catches, other times it doesn't. I'm not used to driving a car with so much power. Sometimes I feel like I can break rubber on dry pavement and sometimes it feels like I can't. The car is equipped with a rear LSD, but I'm wondering if 230hp is enough hp to break three wheels free in the rain and enough to chirp them in the dry.

I really need to do a gravel test, but I don't have any gravel to go to

Splinter · Post by **Splinter** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:07 am

Put it up on jackstands?

Manarius · Post by **Manarius** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:53 am

Splinter wrote:Put it up on jackstands?

If I had a garage....

BAC5.2 · Post by **BAC5.2** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:55 pm

Do that on the street.

I've had my car on jackstands in the parking lot of my college before. No one cares.

Hocrest · Post by **Hocrest** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:18 pm

PhyrraM wrote:SVX is a 3.59:1 rear end. Also is rumored to be a R180. So a WRX 5-speed should be a drop in. 6-speed needs rear gears or possibly a STI differential.

From what I researched long ago (I had the SVX hard on for a while too), the Legacy pedals drop right in. A EJ flywheel is a bolt in. And the transmission crossmember was minor-to-no mods. No 5-speed console exists for the interior. And I don't recall if a off-the-shelf driveshaft from another Suby can work.

Ej22t pistons should drop in. Use the EG33 rods, but I seem to recall them being the same anyways.

Turbo 6-speed SVX. Prolly cheaper and easier then most would admit.

It's a 3.545 with an R160 rear.

Pedals from an Imp or Legacy can be modified and combined with SVX parts to fit.

Modding and adding to the SVX crossmember is better than trying to mod the Leg crossmember.

For the console all you need to do is attach a leather boot to the bottom of the stock console.

A six speed SVX is now fairly easy, with kits produced by a member of subaru-svx.net. There are half a dozen that I know of, probably closer to 20+ in existence. I only know of two turbos, but there a handful of SC'd ones with two different systems.

Hocrest · Post by **Hocrest** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:26 pm

Adam West wrote:I'm thinking drag car! Get an EM system with launch control - tear out the insides, roll cage, my god that would be freaking cool...Lght up all four wheels in launch. You could lighten that thing up quite a bit by tearing the usual stuff out...but all that glass has to weight a ton. So do you bake driving around in those on a hot day?...

Me and a buddy have done that, but built for AXing and hillclimbs, not dragging. We have the weight at about 2800 now. About the only weight left to lose is the fixed glass, and now that we have a cage we can start to lose some sheet metal.

Last year at the Grassroots Motorsports $2006 Challenge we got it down to a 14.242/96 mph. We kept increasing the pressure in the tires, because it wouldn't break them free with a 2500-3000 TC rev. We figured to keep going higher to decrease the rolling resistance. I think by the peak afternoon heat we were up to 45psi and still not spinning them.

Hocrest · Post by **Hocrest** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:29 pm

Manarius wrote:A few pics....

http://gallery.discens.org/main.php?g2_itemId=241

Looks nice, it's about time you got one... You've been over there long enough without one

You're coming to Reading next year, right??

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Out of the Legacy World for a while...sort of

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