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broken tranny again ; )

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:12 am
by jake15
well, i was driving to a car meet last saturday night and i lost a gear... again.... so i took the car apart on sunday and i went from this:

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to this :twisted:

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(it has a shift boot now :-) )
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started taking the car apart at 10:00 and drove out of the shop around 5:00 (it took a little longer because i had to re-assemble the 6speed (my brother borrowed some parts from it for his impreza). i've been driving it for a week and so far i love driving the car with the 6 speed, especially on the freeway. its nice to be able to cruise at 60 and still be under 3k rpm.

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:26 am
by brando
nice!!! I need one too.

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:34 pm
by legacy92ej22t
Sweet! Well, that tranny should last at least. ;)

This is why I sold my '92. Two trannies is 9 months was just too much and I couldn't afford a tranny that could hold the p0w3r!!!

what 6 spd?

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:24 pm
by kleinkid
What model does a 6 speed that fits our cars come from?

Re: what 6 spd?

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:29 pm
by Legacy777
kleinkid wrote:What model does a 6 speed that fits our cars come from?
I can see the gears turning in John's head :lol:

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:14 pm
by jake15
The tranny is from a 2004 STi, but you can use any year STi tranny.

good man, Jake

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:46 pm
by kleinkid
Starting to think about it. My car has the stock drivetrain, brakes, axles, rear end(lsd), driveshaft, etc. Can you just swap the tranny itself, or do you need the axles, driveshaft, etc.?

And, I will do a good search on this site!

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:31 am
by livestrong14
HAHAHA! Jake you never cease to amaze me! What is the final gear ratio?

And you know what this means???? You used the R180 rear diff huh? With Brembo's?!?!?!

OMG!!

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:32 am
by jake15
kleinkid wrote:Starting to think about it. My car has the stock drivetrain, brakes, axles, rear end(lsd), driveshaft, etc. Can you just swap the tranny itself, or do you need the axles, driveshaft, etc.?

And, I will do a good search on this site!
you can swap just the tranny and use an automatic legacy driveshaft, and the shift linkage.
livestrong14 wrote:HAHAHA! Jake you never cease to amaze me! What is the final gear ratio?

And you know what this means???? You used the R180 rear diff huh? With Brembo's?!?!?!

OMG!!
the final drive is 3.9

sadly i havent been able to locate rear hubs/brakes/ ebrake cables at a decent price so it is still running the r160. i dont think i'm going to do the front brembo's because they wont fit under my BBS wheels, so i'll have to find some other big brakes that will fit. but the r180 and rear brembo's are next on the list after the new motor/turbo 8)

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:34 am
by livestrong14
Awesome! I need a ride man! I would really like to drive up and dyno at PIA this spring break.

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:51 am
by smh0101
jake15 wrote:...
you can swap just the tranny and use an automatic legacy driveshaft, and the shift linkage.
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You mean the 4eat driveshaft? and the 6spd linkage? Right?

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:55 am
by skid542
Hold up a second, maybe I missed something. Isn't the 6sp STi a 4.44 ratio?

How did you convert it to run 3.9? Because that's gotta be some serious top gear speed.

Are you running a seperate DCCD controller or did that go away when you converted to 3.9?

I'm amazed and confused.

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:08 am
by Adam West
Jake, Congrats on getting this done! Rock on!

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:21 am
by IronMonkeyL255
skid542 wrote:Hold up a second, maybe I missed something. Isn't the 6sp STi a 4.44 ratio?

How did you convert it to run 3.9? Because that's gotta be some serious top gear speed.

Are you running a seperate DCCD controller or did that go away when you converted to 3.9?

I'm amazed and confused.
The USDM STI FD is 3.9.

I think only the JDM versions had 4.44 gearing in a 6-speed.

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:22 am
by IronMonkeyL255
smh0101 wrote:
jake15 wrote:...
you can swap just the tranny and use an automatic legacy driveshaft, and the shift linkage.
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You mean the 4eat driveshaft? and the 6spd linkage? Right?
I think that's what he's saying.

I seem to remember the 6-speed is the same length as the 4EAT.

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:50 am
by livestrong14
Yep, just looked on our tranny chart. FD is 3:90

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:56 am
by skid542
Well I'll be damned. I could have sworn it was 4.44. Riding/driving my friend's 05' seemed short enough to be a 4.44. Hmm...

Jake, you don't mind having to be in 3rd by 60mph? Further, you feel like you are staying in boost long enough?


And awesome 7 hours well spent :).

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:18 pm
by jake15
smh0101 wrote:
You mean the 4eat driveshaft? and the 6spd linkage? Right?

correct

skid542 wrote:Hold up a second, maybe I missed something. Isn't the 6sp STi a 4.44 ratio?

How did you convert it to run 3.9? Because that's gotta be some serious top gear speed.

Are you running a seperate DCCD controller or did that go away when you converted to 3.9?

I'm amazed and confused.

04-05 STi trannys are 3.9FD and the 06-07 trannys are 3.545FD

i will be running a seperate DCCD controller, it all depends on when i get the funds.

skid542 wrote:Well I'll be damned. I could have sworn it was 4.44. Riding/driving my friend's 05' seemed short enough to be a 4.44. Hmm...

Jake, you don't mind having to be in 3rd by 60mph? Further, you feel like you are staying in boost long enough?


And awesome 7 hours well spent :).
the 4.11 5 speed i had in there before 2nd gear topped out at 50mph, so no i dont mind 8) yeah, the only gear thats not really useful is first. but first never really is that useful, except for getting the car rolling :lol:

BC driveshaft?

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:59 pm
by kleinkid
Jake--The 4eat driveshaft you refer to would be from a BC, correct?

Re: BC driveshaft?

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:26 pm
by jake15
kleinkid wrote:Jake--The 4eat driveshaft you refer to would be from a BC, correct?
It can be from any 90-99 legacy. just as long as it matches the flange on your rear diff. and if you get one from an outback you have to switch the carrier bearing.

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:26 pm
by Adam West
And how in the heck did you ever figure that one out??

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:28 pm
by asc_up
I think when you work at PIA and your dad owns PIA, you start to pick up on little things like that.

Damn. Haha. I wish I had/could afford a 6 speed.

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:57 pm
by Adam West
Oh, I thought it was the hair (or lack thereof...) <grin> Thanks for paving the way Jake!

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:56 pm
by NICO
jake15 you first post had me on the floor LOL, its hard to type hahahahha

5pic to 6pic(sticker) hahahhahahahahahhah.

o man, lol good work.

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:28 pm
by vrg3
Nice!

I love the label mod.

So without a DCCD controller, it acts as an open differential, right? What's it like driving with an open center diff?