tranny swap today... good lord...

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tranny swap today... good lord...

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Well, that was a bitch... Even with Andy's help (92ss satinsvoice)

We started at 8:00 this morning, in a sloped driveway... and got done at about, well, 8:00 tonight!

well, we did run into Vancouver (30mi) to buy a 3ton floor jack and a breaker bar.

but other than that we just wrenched all day... I did use a little bit different tranny gear mixture...

1qt Royal Purple Max-Gear High Performance Syn
1qt Royal Purple Synchromax
2qt Valvoline High Performance 80w90

But I didnt use all the Valvoline, only actually about 1 1/2 qts/

Quite the upgrade from straight Valvoline Gear Oil, that was what we put in that tranny before... And 2nd Gear was NOT happy when warmed up... But now I can shift into it at 40 with no problems... :D

So yeah, it was a pain in the ass, the car got its fair share of blood, I dont really want to ever do it again, and I discovered I need a new half shaft, ball joints, potentially a wheel bearing, and fix the wiring gremlin...

OH and the clutch fork thingy is a pain in the arse!
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Well, I didnt mean it to sound THAT negative... I certainly dont regret doing it, but it was surely an experience!

And there was NO way in hell that it would have been done without Andys help, well, it was more like me helping Andy!
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Post by vrg3 »

Out of curiosity, what part did you feel was most difficult? A couple years ago my roommate and I swapped my tranny and didn't feel it was especially hard to do.

Good man, Andy, for helping out!
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Well, we had small jacks, and so it was a pain in the ass to get the new tranny in there and mounted. That was the hardest part, then trying to slide it forward and wedge the engine back to mate them together.

I ended up on top of the engine pulling the transmission into place while he pushed from beneath.
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Post by legacy92ej22t »

Yeah, I've done the tranny a couple of times and it's not the funnest of jobs. Having a lift and a tranny jack would make it a piece of cake though. If only....
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Post by vrg3 »

Ah. Yeah, that part can be hard.

I had a transmission jack which helped with the lining up. A lot.

But, yeah, getting them to fully mate was still kind of a pain. I ended up putting the bolts in and slooooowly tightening them to force the engine and transmission together. I worked on the lower two and she worked on the upper two and we counted our turns out loud so we wouldn't tweak it to the side or anything.

Another thing that can help is to turn the crank pulley back and forth a little, in case the splines are interfering.

And, also, a lot of shaking, because it's never fully lined up.
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Post by 555BCTurbo »

My brother and I swapped the tranny in my 93 L wagon (which is still for sale btw) yesterday in 3 hours and 40 minutes. Without a tranny jack :D
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Post by Legacy777 »

Try doing a 4EAT.....the 5MT is a piece of cake in comparison.
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Legacy777 wrote:Try doing a 4EAT.....the 5MT is a piece of cake in comparison.

I pulled one...and that is all that I really ever want to have to do with them
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555BCTurbo wrote:My brother and I swapped the tranny in my 93 L wagon (which is still for sale btw) yesterday in 3 hours and 40 minutes. Without a tranny jack :D
Bravo! Bravo!

It was my first time and the bolts were a bitch!

Great for you though.
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Post by IronMonkeyL255 »

555BCTurbo wrote:
Legacy777 wrote:Try doing a 4EAT.....the 5MT is a piece of cake in comparison.

I pulled one...and that is all that I really ever want to have to do with them
Amen to that.
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Post by 92ss satinsvoice »

ive done and auto and i dont ever wanna do it again. the 5spd's not that bad just need more room under the car thats all. my back is all scratched up so when i jumped in the shower when i got home it hurt like a MotherF***er. and i mean damn!


i'm just glad we got it done, its the fastest tranny swap ive ever done and im damn proud of it . im also happy we got it done in one night.

ON A SUNDAY!

i was more then happy to help a friend. thanks vrg3
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555BCTurbo wrote:
Legacy777 wrote:Try doing a 4EAT.....the 5MT is a piece of cake in comparison.

I pulled one...and that is all that I really ever want to have to do with them
heh, how much did you get for that hunk of metal anyways? ;-)

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Post by smh0101 »

well, I got it all to work, i had to rewire something...

Anyways...

All is well... but the clutch feels really wierd... We didnt bleed the clutch, just removed it off the tranny and reinstalled it into the new one...

It feels really short and engaged hella fast.

Any thoughts?
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Post by BSOD2600 »

Bleed it. Did you install the spring on the clutch fork? I ran mine w/o one for a while and found it felt better with one on. Each to his own. Although, since I've installed the spring (and new clutch piston), I haven't had the clutch pedal stick/drop to the floor either.

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Post by smh0101 »

Ok... how do i bleed it?
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Post by BSOD2600 »

Section 2-8, page 8 of the 92 Service manual Legacy777 has posted has the details.

Basically loosen the air bleeder screw, depress the clutch, then tighten the screw again.

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Post by smh0101 »

Cool, thanks, I'll have to do that
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Post by 555BCTurbo »

BSOD2600 wrote:
555BCTurbo wrote:
Legacy777 wrote:Try doing a 4EAT.....the 5MT is a piece of cake in comparison.

I pulled one...and that is all that I really ever want to have to do with them
heh, how much did you get for that hunk of metal anyways? ;-)
I gave it to Dale...and I think it maybe got rebuilt?!?
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Post by asc_up »

So how's that transmission cocktail working? Better shifts compared to how it used to be?
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Post by juice91si »

Legacy777 wrote:Try doing a 4EAT.....the 5MT is a piece of cake in comparison.
my bro and i have swapped the 4eat four times since ive owned a subaru....which is 6 months....which was much more than i bargained for.
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Post by smh0101 »

asc_up wrote:So how's that transmission cocktail working? Better shifts compared to how it used to be?
So far... FANTASTIC!

First gear actually HAS a synchro that works now... And I can shift into second at any time I need to... It rocks!
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Re: tranny swap today... good lord...

Post by 92ss satinsvoice »

smh0101 wrote:
2qt Valvoline High Performance 80w30

its 80w90 damnit!
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Oops... my bad....
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Re: tranny swap today... good lord...

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92ss satinsvoice wrote:
smh0101 wrote:
2qt Valvoline High Performance 80w30

its 80w90 damnit!
:shock: im also sorry
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