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Engine build costs.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:22 am
by PhyrraM
I've personally never had an engine built before. I wanted to run this by you all. I'm sure somebody will let me know if anything seems out of line.

It looks good to me, although it is a bit more than I budgeted. I don't mind paying for quality, and I'm pretty sure I won't have any problems there.

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My EJ22T block
My EJ25 crank
My Pauter rods
My EJ20G or EJ20K heads.

New pistons (in quote)
New bearings (in quote)
New oil pump (not in quote)
MLS headgaskets, stock or Cometic (not in quote)

Any input appreciated. I'm most likely going to go ahead with this unless somebody sees something glaring that I missed.


Edit...... first thing I noticed. No seals in quote, he is assembling the shortblock.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:30 am
by SLODRIVE
Looks good, except I don't see a timing kit or valve cover gaskets...or are you just adding up the machine shop costs for now?

The machine shop prices seem to be in line with what I see around here, BTW.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:47 am
by PhyrraM
That's just the machine shop quote. I stripped out any needless info to protect the innocent.

Like I said, I don't see anything extraneous, but it crept up to $2400 very quickly.

New EJ257 shortblock can be had from Subaru for about $2000, but I've heard both good and bad stories about thier build quality.

I'm only looking to max out a TD05-16G. I realize I don't NEED to build a buletproof shortblock to do that. But it makes me feel better.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:19 am
by AWD_addict
Maybe those bearings are bit expensive? But I got a hookup on OEM ones, so that's just a thought.

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:27 pm
by gijonas
Compared to my build,which i think is more than enough for transmission breaking potential,that looks quite spendy.Those machining costs seem pretty high but i guess everyone charges differently.My machine shop usually includes surfacing of heads and block when doing work on the part,and yeah those bearing prices are out there.

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:25 am
by dzx
yeah, i think the bearings are a little expensive and I got my CP pistons for 100 dollars less, but i got a pretty good deal on them from MCS motorsports off nasioc. Took forever for CP to make them custom to my setup tho.

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:56 pm
by Legacy777
I can't see your prices since my work blocks pictures on flicker.....but from personal experience, if you do it right, prices will tend to creep up on you.

My suggestion would be to lay out your budget, and then plan for a minimum of an additional 10-20%, because when it's all said and done, there will probably be something else that you want to do, and you don't want to put yourself in a position to not do the work, or buy the part for when you've got everything apart because you don't have the money.

That's my two cents anyway....

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:07 pm
by BXSS
Price seems kinda high to me.

I was given a much lower quote to rebuild a ej22t bottom end with custom standard bore pistons, eagle rods, finish hone / fresh bearings / seals.

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:42 pm
by gijonas
My suggestion would be to lay out your budget, and then plan for a minimum of an additional 10-20%, because when it's all said and done, there will probably be something else that you want to do, and you don't want to put yourself in a position to not do the work, or buy the part for when you've got everything apart because you don't have the money.

Definately never read more true words than that.Whatever you think you will spend on this you are already wrong.

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:10 pm
by BXSS
Just saw the little white box which never popped up before - price looks fair now!