Auto climate control

__TT__ · Post by **__TT__** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:26 am

Has anyone ever seen a pic of one? or does anyone have an alpine edition and will take a pick of theres for me. Looking to add one to the t-leg and need a referance for browsing ebay. also is it just a plug and play part IE no other parts needed?

tahiti350 · Post by **tahiti350** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:32 am

I've got auto climate control in a '90 (editted, thanks) LS wagon parts car. It is NOT plug and play, my understanding is that you have to have the entire heating/cooling system to swap in. I've looked at it nad the controls are vacumn operated instead of cables, so that's beliveable.

I may be able to get pic's Wednesday afternoon, depending on whether I can see the dash or not... Lots of parts crammed into the car...

__TT__ · Post by **__TT__** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:30 pm

I'm sorry I should have been more specific. I'm only interested in the first gen option that came in the alpine or mountain editions.

ericem · Post by **ericem** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:47 pm

I think he means 90LS not 09 ls. Regardless like he said the temp control on our unit is cable while everythign I guess including the vent controls are vacuum.

__TT__ · Post by **__TT__** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:55 pm

ah dislyxia (sp) is a bitch

hmm so basicly the entire hvac needs swapped?! hmm a bit more than what I wanted to get into but living in CO i think its a must.

tahiti350....interested in selling me what you have

dscoobydoo · Post by **dscoobydoo** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:41 pm

Trust me, it is not going to work, even after swapping everything in. The wiring harness is completely different also.

Most of us have contemplated it, but have given up due to it being a lost cause.

ericem · Post by **ericem** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:42 pm

Whats wrong with the stock system? Works pretty good, mostly electronic. A/C is temperature controlled, heat defrost all works whats the big deal? lol

__TT__ · Post by **__TT__** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:25 am

So a lot of contemplating but no actual work?! I don't know I mean in order for "options" to be cost effective for subaru they would have had to pre wire for them in most all models. I mean look at the adjustable Int wiper switch, its just a plug and play. the same has to work for same MY auto hvac, even if it is an entire heating system it should be a plug in and go. UNLESS the alpine/moutain edition inside main harness is model specific.

Now as I'm saying this im laughing cause after some researching adding the heated mirrors I'm not seeing an unused plug or unused wires in a plug for the heating elements in the doors. It could be in the door jam boot though. I'd need to see a heated mirror.

MikeyMeyagi · Post by **MikeyMeyagi** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:44 am

i have a alpine wagon but the hvac is the same as my old L wagon....

__TT__ · Post by **__TT__** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:48 am

yeah acording to some info I've come accross its an option for the alpine edition which of course makes it super rare im sure

MikeyMeyagi · Post by **MikeyMeyagi** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:41 am

for those of you who have never seen one...

dscoobydoo · Post by **dscoobydoo** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:19 am

I hate to say this, but SHOULD is not the way it works.

The mirror wiring for heating is not there.
Same thing with the auto climate. It was a different harness altogether. I have an 05 STI with the auto climate. I have an 01 RS and have seen and had the controls for the auto climate. Same thing with the SS. It is WAY different that the set-up for the stock manual controls.

It is not worth the effort to just have it be auto on the SS.

__TT__ · Post by **__TT__** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:06 am

dscoobydoo wrote:I hate to say this, but SHOULD is not the way it works.

The mirror wiring for heating is not there.

Its not in the door for sure I agree but are you 100% its not in the body side of the door jam plug?

Sorry for the jump in topic

__TT__ · Post by **__TT__** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:09 am

is there an online source for electrical diagrams I can look at for first gens?

Kelly · Post by **Kelly** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:15 am

You still constantly adjust "auto" climate anyway.

dscoobydoo · Post by **dscoobydoo** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:27 am

Only the JDM cars had the folding and/or heated mirrors. I know because I ADDED them to my car. SoI know the harness does not exist. Same thing with the headlight levelers. NO WIRING.

What you got is what you got.

UNless you like a LOT of wiring and fabricating.
Even I stop at the Auto climate. And I added: folding mirrors, glass headlights with levelers, headlight sprayers, fog lights.

__TT__ · Post by **__TT__** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:06 am

the heated seats/mirror/and block were available usdm via cold weather package on the alpine option.

http://www.cars101.com/subaru_legacy_archive.html

cant find my source for the auto climate right now

tahiti350 · Post by **tahiti350** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:47 am

IF someone REALLY wanted to make the conversion I might be talked into pulling the auot climate system, complete with the dash harness, etc from my parts car, but for now I'm planning to make the parts car my driver and my driver the parts car... (parts car is nicer than the driver

__TT__ · Post by **__TT__** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:14 pm

ok auto climate WAS an option for LHD cars which still could have been outside usdm I guess.

http://bbs.legacycentral.org/viewtopic.php?t=30531

see fig 720-4a There are some harnesses that may match up somewhere as well. Also 730-1 shows a diferent heater system altogether.

I think I stand corrected on the mirrors and seats being heated as they are not in the catalog. I guess it's possible the Alpine editions where ethier full on imported jdm shells or where imported harnesses and parts from jdm.

Now weather or not its a usdm thing I'm not 100% still

tahiti350 · Post by **tahiti350** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:52 am

My '91 is LHD, and the Auto climate unit doesn't look anything like the one pictured above. here's a pic of it

ericem · Post by **ericem** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:14 am

So maybe there is two auto climate units and one type works!

PhyrraM · Post by **PhyrraM** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:19 am

ericem wrote:So maybe there is two auto climate units and one type works!

There ARE at least two types, that is certain. I've seen both kinds in various pics. I have no idea of any other details--such as where and when each type was installed. Pre- and post-facelift maybe?

ericem · Post by **ericem** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:07 am

It's a nice unit thats for sure.

Post by **Legacy777** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:36 am

The one in the pic above is the ones found on the europeon & possibly japanese models.

I don't think they were a full auto climate control like the ones found on the higher end legacies here in the states.

206er · Post by **206er** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:56 am

does anyone know the reliability of these systems? I'd be pretty hesitant to do a conversion with some shaky early 90's technology that uses vacuum lines and is rare to begin with. an electronic HVAC unit is complicated enough as it is. there are actually 3 or more different BC HVAC units, I bought 2 that werent the same as mine before I got the right one.

legacycentral bbs

A forum for 89-94 BC-BF(BJ) Legacy Owners and Fans

Auto climate control

Auto climate control