Timing Belt Tensioner New Style

Got something for sale? Need to sell a part? Got some stuff on auction that you want to let us know about?

(Legacy Central BBS is not responsible for any arbitration between its users relative to this forum.
Play nice and deal straight)

Moderators: Helpinators2, Moderators

Forum rules
Please see the NEW Parts Shed Rules before posting: http://www.bbs.legacycentral.org/viewto ... 15&t=55814

Sales of parts and parting cars only. Complete or parted car posts should be made in Car Lot: http://www.bbs.legacycentral.org/viewforum.php?f=32
Post Reply
kimokalihi
Fifth Gear
Posts: 8360
Joined: Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:41 am
Location: Tenino, WA

Timing Belt Tensioner New Style

Post by kimokalihi »

This tensioner came off my EJ20G which had 70K miles but it looks like it may have been replaced because it's in pretty good shape.

Retail is $108 on 1stsubaruparts.com

Part # 13033AA042

$55 shipped




Image
Image
Image
98 Metro Hatch Daily Driver :)
91 SS EJ20G Engine/Tranny/Diff Swap Build Thread Here
"Your testes are close to your bottom but you still play with them all the time." Jeremy Clarkson
skid542
Fifth Gear
Posts: 2857
Joined: Fri Dec 26, 2003 6:37 am
Location: North Idaho

Re: Timing Belt Tensioner New Style

Post by skid542 »

That's a good price. Just a quick question if you don't mind - with the new tensioner style, do you need to use that little tiny idler pulley that attached just outboard of the tensioner but still on the tensioner bracket?

Again, a great price and glws.
Lee

93' SS, 5mt swapped, 182k, not stock...
96' N/A OBW 5sp, 212k, Couple mods... RIP
99' N/A OBW, 4eat, mostly stock.
kimokalihi
Fifth Gear
Posts: 8360
Joined: Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:41 am
Location: Tenino, WA

Re: Timing Belt Tensioner New Style

Post by kimokalihi »

Not sure which idler you're talking about but here's some pictures of my EJ20G before I took the tensioner off. Same setup as the EJ22T if you were to use this tensioner.

Image
Image
98 Metro Hatch Daily Driver :)
91 SS EJ20G Engine/Tranny/Diff Swap Build Thread Here
"Your testes are close to your bottom but you still play with them all the time." Jeremy Clarkson
skid542
Fifth Gear
Posts: 2857
Joined: Fri Dec 26, 2003 6:37 am
Location: North Idaho

Re: Timing Belt Tensioner New Style

Post by skid542 »

Well that answers that then. There is a DOHC thread on Nasioc about installing a timing belt - Meaty's timing belt - and it shows a little approx. 1" dia. idler just to the right of the tensioner. I've only seen them on the WRX's though.

Thanks for letting me sidetrack you sale thread and for the pictures :).
Lee

93' SS, 5mt swapped, 182k, not stock...
96' N/A OBW 5sp, 212k, Couple mods... RIP
99' N/A OBW, 4eat, mostly stock.
kimokalihi
Fifth Gear
Posts: 8360
Joined: Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:41 am
Location: Tenino, WA

Re: Timing Belt Tensioner New Style

Post by kimokalihi »

Sort of confused but no problem!
98 Metro Hatch Daily Driver :)
91 SS EJ20G Engine/Tranny/Diff Swap Build Thread Here
"Your testes are close to your bottom but you still play with them all the time." Jeremy Clarkson
evolutionmovement
Knowledgeable
Knowledgeable
Posts: 9809
Joined: Mon Jun 16, 2003 11:20 pm
Location: Beverly, MA

Re: Timing Belt Tensioner New Style

Post by evolutionmovement »

So that just swaps directly with the old style on the EJ22T? Looks much better than the old style and definitely worth the upgrade.
Midnight in a Perfect World on Amazon or order anywhere. The first book in a quartet chronicling the rise of a man from angry criminal to philanthropist. Midnight... is a distopic noirish novel featuring 'Duchess', a modified 1990 Subaru Legacy wagon.
EJ KILLA
First Gear
Posts: 181
Joined: Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:27 pm
Location: puyallup WA

Re: Timing Belt Tensioner New Style

Post by EJ KILLA »

i had this on my ej22t, other than the bolt holding the pulley breaking it is a good upgrade.
SiCkSTi04
Second Gear
Posts: 481
Joined: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:24 pm
Location: St Pete, FL

Re: Timing Belt Tensioner New Style

Post by SiCkSTi04 »

i thought in order to make this work on our cars we would also need the newer redesign Tensioner bracket.
-04 WRX STi - Java Black Pearl - Cobb Stage 2
-02 Forester Type S premium - Platinum Silver Metallic - Stock
-92 Legacy Sport Sedan - Onyx Black Pearl - Stock
93forestpearl
Fifth Gear
Posts: 3043
Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:14 pm
Location: Twin Cities, MN

Re: Timing Belt Tensioner New Style

Post by 93forestpearl »

SiCkSTi04 wrote:i thought in order to make this work on our cars we would also need the newer redesign Tensioner bracket.


Correct.






Whether or not the newer style is an "upgrade" is debatable.
→Dan

piddster34 at h0tma1l d0t c0m
evolutionmovement
Knowledgeable
Knowledgeable
Posts: 9809
Joined: Mon Jun 16, 2003 11:20 pm
Location: Beverly, MA

Re: Timing Belt Tensioner New Style

Post by evolutionmovement »

Seems to me it has greater leverage against the belt vs. the early style, requiring less force from the tensioner and probably being less prone to failure. And there's the assumption that they would redesign the tensioner as an improvement rather than a retrograde change, but none of that is based on any actual experience.

I'll definitely try it with the next belt change, though. Whenever the hell that will be.
Midnight in a Perfect World on Amazon or order anywhere. The first book in a quartet chronicling the rise of a man from angry criminal to philanthropist. Midnight... is a distopic noirish novel featuring 'Duchess', a modified 1990 Subaru Legacy wagon.
93forestpearl
Fifth Gear
Posts: 3043
Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:14 pm
Location: Twin Cities, MN

Re: Timing Belt Tensioner New Style

Post by 93forestpearl »

evolutionmovement wrote:Seems to me it has greater leverage against the belt vs. the early style, requiring less force from the tensioner and probably being less prone to failure. And there's the assumption that they would redesign the tensioner as an improvement rather than a retrograde change, but none of that is based on any actual experience.

I'll definitely try it with the next belt change, though. Whenever the hell that will be.

The newer style is actually more prone to failure, according to several dealer techs I know. They've had cars come in with 40k that need a new one.


Prodrive still uses the old style on their WRC engines.
→Dan

piddster34 at h0tma1l d0t c0m
evolutionmovement
Knowledgeable
Knowledgeable
Posts: 9809
Joined: Mon Jun 16, 2003 11:20 pm
Location: Beverly, MA

Re: Timing Belt Tensioner New Style

Post by evolutionmovement »

Really? I just assumed where the newer engines are interference, they went to a design that would be more robust. Then again, there's also that almost every car makers' interest in making quality cars with some longevity designed in has tanked since the early-mid nineties.

Sorry, Kimo!
Midnight in a Perfect World on Amazon or order anywhere. The first book in a quartet chronicling the rise of a man from angry criminal to philanthropist. Midnight... is a distopic noirish novel featuring 'Duchess', a modified 1990 Subaru Legacy wagon.
kimokalihi
Fifth Gear
Posts: 8360
Joined: Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:41 am
Location: Tenino, WA

Re: Timing Belt Tensioner New Style

Post by kimokalihi »

lol No worries. I have no idea which is better.
98 Metro Hatch Daily Driver :)
91 SS EJ20G Engine/Tranny/Diff Swap Build Thread Here
"Your testes are close to your bottom but you still play with them all the time." Jeremy Clarkson
gijonas
Fourth Gear
Posts: 1010
Joined: Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:57 pm
Location: Damariscotta, Maine

Re: Timing Belt Tensioner New Style

Post by gijonas »

Looking at todays subarus I see no reason to assume that anything they have been doing should be called an "upgrade". :-D
94SS.Wiseco forged pistons,TD04,TMIC,WALBRO 225,440's,3" all the way,revtronix stage 2,enough other crap to fill the internet.

THE TRIBUTE BUILD>>>LINKY LINK>>> http://bbs.legacycentral.org/viewtopic.php?p=295455#295455
Post Reply