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Custom Power Steering Line Thread
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 3:24 am
by 93forestpearl
I know some people are interested in making the factory lines not so in-the-way. Of course, after I make my lines, I find a better way to do it. Earl's makes "bump tube" adapters, which mate the factory style bubble flare to a -06 AN male fitting.
A person would need one M16x1.5 male bump tube to -06 for the feed at the pump. Two female bump tube to -06 adapters would be for the rack end of the lines, one sized M14x1.5 and the other M16x1.5.
They can be bought here:
http://www.anplumbing.com/shop/index.ph ... ept=Metric
For the lines and fittings themselves, you would need to use a proper hydraulic hose. High-side power steering lines run between 1000 and 1500 psi, so your typical stainless braided hose is not going to cut it. The hydraulic hose is actually cheaper, and the steel fittings for it are actually A LOT cheaper than the fancy aluminum stuff from Aeroquip.
As far as how you would run the lines, you are on your own since it depends on what you have going on in your engine bay. The nice thing about the reusable hose ends is that you can cut the hose to fit how you want. The hose ends are really easy to put together if you are scared of trying it yourself.
If you do it right, you should be able to make nice custom lines for less than $150, easy.
Re: Custom Power Steering Line Thread
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 4:41 am
by gijonas
Good info,another thing to want to do lol.
Re: Custom Power Steering Line Thread
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 4:57 am
by kimokalihi
Awesome, I hate the factory lines after installing the EJ20G. They're all bent up now and I'm worried they're partially kinked in places from trying to bend them with a tube bender not designed to unbend bends.
Re: Custom Power Steering Line Thread
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 5:44 am
by 93forestpearl
This is where my system sits at the moment, although I'm thinking about changing it. Running around the upipe is the major issue. I'm debating using the Versil-Flare to make my own hard-lines to go around the uppipe or not.
I'd like to get rid of my welded fittings just because I don't trust myself that well. 50 psi exhaust is one thing, but 1200 psi fluid is another.
Re: Custom Power Steering Line Thread
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 1:16 am
by kimokalihi
We need Dan back. I still need to do this. There's a local hydraulics place but they told me they don't do metric fittings. I really need some new hoses for my ps. I'm driving the legacy daily again and it really sucks not having power steering.
Re: Custom Power Steering Line Thread
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 1:49 pm
by cj91legss
Williams Oil Filter may make you some. They made custom brake lines for my friends honda. Maybe they'll do power steering lines as well.
Re: Custom Power Steering Line Thread
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:34 pm
by kimokalihi
Where is this?
Re: Custom Power Steering Line Thread
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:37 pm
by cj91legss
It's in downtown Tacoma.
Re: Custom Power Steering Line Thread
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:37 pm
by cj91legss
Re: Custom Power Steering Line Thread
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:53 pm
by imtb
I was thinking about a remote resivor for mine off a newer legacy, but porbably more trouble than worth it.
Re: Custom Power Steering Line Thread
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:35 am
by kimokalihi
What is the point of the remote reservoir? I'm actually wondering, not trying to be rude. I have a wrx pump and remote reservoir but unless it holds more fluid, I don't see the point. It's more clutter under the hood.
Re: Custom Power Steering Line Thread
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:01 pm
by cj91legss
I'm guessing the pump has more flow/demand....? The wrx reservoir is significantly larger than the early legacy res. Not that we're talking about the wrx specifically...
Re: Custom Power Steering Line Thread
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:26 pm
by Legacy777
The remote reservoir is to help accommodate the intake piping under the intake manifold.
Re: Custom Power Steering Line Thread
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:59 pm
by cj91legss
What was the purpose for it on the non turbo cars tho?
Re: Custom Power Steering Line Thread
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:23 pm
by kimokalihi
Legacy777 wrote:The remote reservoir is to help accommodate the intake piping under the intake manifold.
Is the intake piping that much different than the EJ20K that I have? It must be because the reservoir they had on that car cleared it just fine.
Re: Custom Power Steering Line Thread
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:27 pm
by kimokalihi
So today I went to grab my spare set of power steering hoses to take to a shop to build me new ones and while looking at the ones on my car I realized I already replaced them with other stock 1st gen hoses and did a better job bending them. They don't look kinked at all. So now I'm wondering if the pump is not working or if theres an adjustment on the rack that needs adjusting. I remember an insert on the rack that I tightened as close to spec as I could get it that seemed to apply pressure to the cylinder inside the rack. Maybe it's too tight?
I'm going to go look up and probably order a pump rebuild kit. Maybe someone can sell me their EJ22T pump in known good working condition so I can swap it out and see if that's the issue.
Re: Custom Power Steering Line Thread
Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 2:53 pm
by Legacy777
The non-turbo & turbo pumps are the same. The 93-94 models got a different part number. I believe someone posted in my p-steering pump rebuild thread about the difference they noted.
Re: Custom Power Steering Line Thread
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:14 pm
by canadianbc5ra
If you're going through all the trouble and expense of modifying the lines, for an extra $50 head down to the junk yard and pick up a power steering pump and pigtale from a Mazda3 and go electric. I bought my pump for $30, wiring was $20, fuse $6, and my custom lines were roughly $40. I used a reservoir from a later gen Legacy (the one that sits on the passenger side of the engine bay. Total cost ~$100. Once I get everything installed I can post pictures. (May not happen for a bit, there's a lot goin on at the moment). However, a similar setup was installed on UK's fastest Legacy. TeamLegacyUK if anyone is wondering.
Re: Custom Power Steering Line Thread
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:12 am
by mike-tracy
Pretty interesting mod. What year mazda 3?
Re: Custom Power Steering Line Thread
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 3:23 am
by canadianbc5ra
Any year 04-present they all use the same electro hydraulic pump assembly.
Re: Custom Power Steering Line Thread
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 3:24 am
by canadianbc5ra
It sits in the front passenger corner of the front bumper.
Re: Custom Power Steering Line Thread
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 6:59 pm
by mike-tracy
Cool. I noticed a mazda 3 at pick n pull last time i was there. Only the 2nd one i've seen. Have to go to a "classier" junkyard for those lol.
I await your impressions.
Re: Custom Power Steering Line Thread
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:05 pm
by canadianbc5ra
its gonna be a while. However for more info check out TeamLegacyUK. He's done the exact same mod but with a Citroen Saxo VTS pump that's similar to the Mazda3 style. I've later found that although similar the Mazda3 pump works better at reacting under heavy load than the Citroen pump does. Theres an age gap there too. He's since gone back to a normal belt driven pump. I've also played with the idea of swapping to a full custom subframe that will mount the 14+ STi rack. It's full electric with no hydraulics. Just gotta wire up the control unit to power n ground, everything else is housed inside the rack.
Re: Custom Power Steering Line Thread
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:04 pm
by cj91legss
Electric steering rack
That seems scary.....
Re: Custom Power Steering Line Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:37 pm
by Legacy777
I've had mixed experiences with the electric assist power steering racks I've driven. Some have felt like utter shit, while others have not been noticeable.