Removing the junction from the master to slave cylinder

Flywheel, Clutch, Transmission, Axles, etc...

Moderators: Helpinators, Moderators

Post Reply
mike-tracy
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 5000
Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:52 am
Location: Des Moines, Wa

Removing the junction from the master to slave cylinder

Post by mike-tracy »

I believe I read a while ago several people removed the hardlines for the clutch, and ran the rubber hose straight from the master to slave cylinder, right?

I was attempting to do that tonight and discovered that my hydraulic setup (from an 02-05 US wrx) has the wrong gender on the rubber hose. Needs to be male.  I also found in my pile of parts that my n/a hydro clutch master and slaves are the same setup as the wrx, as far as gender of the rubber hose.

I'm looking to get better pedal feel with this exercise. So what do I need to do to get this to work?
1992 Legacy SS 5mt, build in progress
Josh Colombo wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2002 10:23 am Wait....I'm confused now.
kimokalihi
Fifth Gear
Posts: 8360
Joined: Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:41 am
Location: Tenino, WA

Re: Removing the junction from the master to slave cylinder

Post by kimokalihi »

All I know is I removed the damper and ran whatever hose reached to the slave. I had to unbolt and bend the hard line a bit but it works amazing.
98 Metro Hatch Daily Driver :)
91 SS EJ20G Engine/Tranny/Diff Swap Build Thread Here
"Your testes are close to your bottom but you still play with them all the time." Jeremy Clarkson
mike-tracy
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 5000
Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:52 am
Location: Des Moines, Wa

Re: Removing the junction from the master to slave cylinder

Post by mike-tracy »

This is really awkward to do from my phone. But here goes:

This is what I have right now between the master and slave cyls:
Image

so would you say I don't have that piece you took off?
1992 Legacy SS 5mt, build in progress
Josh Colombo wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2002 10:23 am Wait....I'm confused now.
vrg3
Vikash
Posts: 12517
Joined: Sun Nov 03, 2002 2:13 am
Location: USA, OH, Cleveland (sometimes visiting DC though)
Contact:

Re: Removing the junction from the master to slave cylinder

Post by vrg3 »

You need a different rubber hose. You don't, however, need one with a "male" end. Here's the background on how each type of line attaches to the master cylinder, slave cylinder, or damper:

The hard lines attach with flare fittings. The line has an M10x1.0 flare nut (external threads) on it and it threads into whatever it's attached to (which has internal threads), compressing the flared tube against a matching inverted flare in the cylinder or damper.

The rubber lines have banjo fittings at the end. They require a banjo bolt and two annealed copper washers to attach to whatever they're attaching to. They're 10mm banjos, so you can use an M10x1.0 banjo bolt.

The fittings on the master and slave cylinder should be able to work with either type of line, as long as the banjo bolt isn't too long (or else the flare in the cylinder or damper would interfere with the bolt).

If you're not familiar with banjo fittings, the picture at the top of this page and the picture at "Step 7" on this page should make it clearer.

This isn't a great picture, but the kind of hose you need is like this one. And, of course, you'll need a banjo bolt and two copper washers.
"Just reading vrg3's convoluted, information-packed posts made me feel better all over again." -- subyluvr2212
mike-tracy
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 5000
Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:52 am
Location: Des Moines, Wa

Re: Removing the junction from the master to slave cylinder

Post by mike-tracy »

thanks for the clarification. The pictured setup was in my car, mounted like so.

i'll pm you re: that hose
1992 Legacy SS 5mt, build in progress
Josh Colombo wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2002 10:23 am Wait....I'm confused now.
kimokalihi
Fifth Gear
Posts: 8360
Joined: Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:41 am
Location: Tenino, WA

Re: Removing the junction from the master to slave cylinder

Post by kimokalihi »

Looks he same as I remember mine being. That rubber hose bolts to the master and the hard line with the flare end bolts to the slave. Bend the hard line up so the hose reaches.
98 Metro Hatch Daily Driver :)
91 SS EJ20G Engine/Tranny/Diff Swap Build Thread Here
"Your testes are close to your bottom but you still play with them all the time." Jeremy Clarkson
bmxkelowna
Fourth Gear
Posts: 1047
Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2006 5:00 am
Location: kelowna bc canada
Contact:

Re: Removing the junction from the master to slave cylinder

Post by bmxkelowna »

check my thread

http://bbs.legacycentral.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=48261

i have all the part numbers to make a braided line
mike-tracy
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 5000
Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:52 am
Location: Des Moines, Wa

Re: Removing the junction from the master to slave cylinder

Post by mike-tracy »

bmx, thanks for the info, that's awesome! I just bought a hose from vrg3 or i'd order those
1992 Legacy SS 5mt, build in progress
Josh Colombo wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2002 10:23 am Wait....I'm confused now.
vrg3
Vikash
Posts: 12517
Joined: Sun Nov 03, 2002 2:13 am
Location: USA, OH, Cleveland (sometimes visiting DC though)
Contact:

Re: Removing the junction from the master to slave cylinder

Post by vrg3 »

I haven't shipped the hose yet -- you can change your mind if you like. Let me know and I'll refund the PayPal payment.
"Just reading vrg3's convoluted, information-packed posts made me feel better all over again." -- subyluvr2212
Post Reply