Damn Larry! That sounds like hot stuff you are working on there...
Hey folks,
I have to appologize in advance for a couple o' things:
1. On the whole plastic camshaft sprocket I reeeeaaalllly made a idiot of myself in typical American form. I figgured since I had steel sprockets, everyone must have them - wrong. I'll go back to eating humble sandwiches for a while.
2. I am horribly not very up on things that are going on in our culture as I do not have a television, nor, do I listen to the radio very much. I get _all_ my information from the internet pretty much. I had no idea Brittney Spears was a big thing until just a few weeks ago... Or is that out now? Whatever...
So why does #2 have anything to do with anything? you might ask...
Well, I was minding my own business on my way up to the in-laws today, and pulled up to an Outback wagon at a red light. Normally I wouldn't have looked at the thing twice (I have a sincere disinterest for the Outback line-up. If it were not for the fact Subaru might have gone out of business had they not invented the "cross-over" wagon, which propelled their revenues back into the black; I might never respect the Outback line up at all.). But I did look twice. Why? The badge on the back of the thing said H - 6 3.0
Yup. That's what it said - no lie. Looked at the thing 4 times, that's what it said. So what is a boy to do? I log onto Subaru.com and go pecking around. Sure enough they are making the things - a horizontally opposed 6 cylender 3.0 liter.
So I'm thinking "Uh my gosh! I am totally not a part of the universe or something."
Has any of you over-seas folks had the chance to see this thing in action? Is there any hope of bolting one of those things up and re-connecting the hoses in such a way the engine will work again? Etc....? Do they make, have they made a turbo out of this thing? What sort of feedback is there about this thing? Are our engine compartments big enough for something like that? Open deck no doubt. Sand cast costs too much - or am I wrong?
-Sambo
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From: ssspoon@aol.com [mailto:ssspoon@aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 7:37 PM
To: vultureboy@mindspring.com
Cc: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: visors / ECU vs fuel pump and more
Hey Bill,
I'm told the car has been totaled by the insurance company but the mechanic
doesn't own it yet. I guess there's a chance the old owner will be like me,
and buy it back from the insurance company for 25 bucks, so hang onto that
visor please.
And now the latest.
Yes, the stumbling and missing was a loose plug wire. I don't know how the
shit that wire comes off, as hard as it is to push on !!!
And now the good stuff.
When I clipped leads from the battery to the fuel pump it worked like a charm.
Apart from the less than perfect diagnostic skills of the mechanic, what does
this mean to me (and everybody else) ?
It means, just like the ECU internet site said, a lack of spark, injector
pulse, or fuel flow is often misdiagnosed as a system component problem, when
it can actually be the ECU on the ropes. It looks like the ECU fooled us
into thinking it was the fuel pump, but it was really the ECU in the process
of giving up the ghost, because a new used pump worked fine. Then a couple
of weeks later, the ECU shut completely down making itself easier to isolate.
So after dropping a couple of hundred plus on a fuel pump R & R for nothing,
how is this a good thing?
If I really want to twist the situation around...
1. I now have an apparently dead ECU for somebody to play with, that might be
resurrected with additional value
2. I now have an extra fuel pump, and of course turbo fuel pumps are very
hard to find.
3. The actual pump assembly, with bracketry, wiring, sending unit, float,
electrical connections, etc., are attached to the pump with about three
screws and a couple of clips. The pump can be separated from all that very
easily, and is a very compact 2 inches in diameter by 5 inches long. Why is
this a good thing?
4. Because those following my quest for an air-to-water intercooler know I
will need a pump !!! Generally, the quiet pumps are not rated for continuous
operation, and the pumps designed for continuous operation are noisy. This
fuel pump is of course operated continuously, is whisper quiet, is compact,
and has an output like a cheap hooker on Saturday nite. I even think I will
be able to rig it to operate from inside the washer tank turned water
reservoir. Is that hot shit or what ?
Course I hadn't planned to spend more on the frigging pump than the
intercooler, but hey, smoke em if you got em.
More to follow
Larry air-to-water bound or bust Witherspoon, from Torrance (Los Angeles)
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Larry's visors / ECU vs fuel pump and more, MUCH MORE...
Hay Sambo
the H6 is less than an inch longer then the H4. It is rumoured that it will be in a Legacy Sedan next year.
have you seen the WRX yet. 2.0 liter turbo 217 hp. there is rumours of a WRX Sti next year 276 hp. and even wilder rumours of a B4 RSK Legacy twin turbo (maybe). There is info on the B4 at http://www.subaru.co.nz .
all kinds of stuff going on in the Subaru world
seya
Gord
-----Original Message-----
From: Sam & Beth Barrett [mailto:LEVATHIAN@sprintmail.com]
Sent: 6-May-01 3:52 AM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks (E-mail)
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] RE: Larry's visors / ECU vs fuel pump and more, MUCH MORE...
Damn Larry! That sounds like hot stuff you are working on there...
Hey folks,
I have to appologize in advance for a couple o' things:
1. On the whole plastic camshaft sprocket I reeeeaaalllly made a idiot of myself in typical American form. I figgured since I had steel sprockets, everyone must have them - wrong. I'll go back to eating humble sandwiches for a while.
2. I am horribly not very up on things that are going on in our culture as I do not have a television, nor, do I listen to the radio very much. I get _all_ my information from the internet pretty much. I had no idea Brittney Spears was a big thing until just a few weeks ago... Or is that out now? Whatever...
So why does #2 have anything to do with anything? you might ask...
Well, I was minding my own business on my way up to the in-laws today, and pulled up to an Outback wagon at a red light. Normally I wouldn't have looked at the thing twice (I have a sincere disinterest for the Outback line-up. If it were not for the fact Subaru might have gone out of business had they not invented the "cross-over" wagon, which propelled their revenues back into the black; I might never respect the Outback line up at all.). But I did look twice. Why? The badge on the back of the thing said H - 6 3.0
Yup. That's what it said - no lie. Looked at the thing 4 times, that's what it said. So what is a boy to do? I log onto Subaru.com and go pecking around. Sure enough they are making the things - a horizontally opposed 6 cylender 3.0 liter.
So I'm thinking "Uh my gosh! I am totally not a part of the universe or something."
Has any of you over-seas folks had the chance to see this thing in action? Is there any hope of bolting one of those things up and re-connecting the hoses in such a way the engine will work again? Etc....? Do they make, have they made a turbo out of this thing? What sort of feedback is there about this thing? Are our engine compartments big enough for something like that? Open deck no doubt. Sand cast costs too much - or am I wrong?
-Sambo
-----Original Message-----
From: ssspoon@aol.com [mailto:ssspoon@aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 7:37 PM
To: vultureboy@mindspring.com
Cc: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: visors / ECU vs fuel pump and more
Hey Bill,
I'm told the car has been totaled by the insurance company but the mechanic
doesn't own it yet. I guess there's a chance the old owner will be like me,
and buy it back from the insurance company for 25 bucks, so hang onto that
visor please.
And now the latest.
Yes, the stumbling and missing was a loose plug wire. I don't know how the
shit that wire comes off, as hard as it is to push on !!!
And now the good stuff.
When I clipped leads from the battery to the fuel pump it worked like a charm.
Apart from the less than perfect diagnostic skills of the mechanic, what does
this mean to me (and everybody else) ?
It means, just like the ECU internet site said, a lack of spark, injector
pulse, or fuel flow is often misdiagnosed as a system component problem, when
it can actually be the ECU on the ropes. It looks like the ECU fooled us
into thinking it was the fuel pump, but it was really the ECU in the process
of giving up the ghost, because a new used pump worked fine. Then a couple
of weeks later, the ECU shut completely down making itself easier to isolate.
So after dropping a couple of hundred plus on a fuel pump R & R for nothing,
how is this a good thing?
If I really want to twist the situation around...
1. I now have an apparently dead ECU for somebody to play with, that might be
resurrected with additional value
2. I now have an extra fuel pump, and of course turbo fuel pumps are very
hard to find.
3. The actual pump assembly, with bracketry, wiring, sending unit, float,
electrical connections, etc., are attached to the pump with about three
screws and a couple of clips. The pump can be separated from all that very
easily, and is a very compact 2 inches in diameter by 5 inches long. Why is
this a good thing?
4. Because those following my quest for an air-to-water intercooler know I
will need a pump !!! Generally, the quiet pumps are not rated for continuous
operation, and the pumps designed for continuous operation are noisy. This
fuel pump is of course operated continuously, is whisper quiet, is compact,
and has an output like a cheap hooker on Saturday nite. I even think I will
be able to rig it to operate from inside the washer tank turned water
reservoir. Is that hot shit or what ?
Course I hadn't planned to spend more on the frigging pump than the
intercooler, but hey, smoke em if you got em.
More to follow
Larry air-to-water bound or bust Witherspoon, from Torrance (Los Angeles)
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the H6 is less than an inch longer then the H4. It is rumoured that it will be in a Legacy Sedan next year.
have you seen the WRX yet. 2.0 liter turbo 217 hp. there is rumours of a WRX Sti next year 276 hp. and even wilder rumours of a B4 RSK Legacy twin turbo (maybe). There is info on the B4 at http://www.subaru.co.nz .
all kinds of stuff going on in the Subaru world
seya
Gord
-----Original Message-----
From: Sam & Beth Barrett [mailto:LEVATHIAN@sprintmail.com]
Sent: 6-May-01 3:52 AM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks (E-mail)
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] RE: Larry's visors / ECU vs fuel pump and more, MUCH MORE...
Damn Larry! That sounds like hot stuff you are working on there...
Hey folks,
I have to appologize in advance for a couple o' things:
1. On the whole plastic camshaft sprocket I reeeeaaalllly made a idiot of myself in typical American form. I figgured since I had steel sprockets, everyone must have them - wrong. I'll go back to eating humble sandwiches for a while.
2. I am horribly not very up on things that are going on in our culture as I do not have a television, nor, do I listen to the radio very much. I get _all_ my information from the internet pretty much. I had no idea Brittney Spears was a big thing until just a few weeks ago... Or is that out now? Whatever...
So why does #2 have anything to do with anything? you might ask...
Well, I was minding my own business on my way up to the in-laws today, and pulled up to an Outback wagon at a red light. Normally I wouldn't have looked at the thing twice (I have a sincere disinterest for the Outback line-up. If it were not for the fact Subaru might have gone out of business had they not invented the "cross-over" wagon, which propelled their revenues back into the black; I might never respect the Outback line up at all.). But I did look twice. Why? The badge on the back of the thing said H - 6 3.0
Yup. That's what it said - no lie. Looked at the thing 4 times, that's what it said. So what is a boy to do? I log onto Subaru.com and go pecking around. Sure enough they are making the things - a horizontally opposed 6 cylender 3.0 liter.
So I'm thinking "Uh my gosh! I am totally not a part of the universe or something."
Has any of you over-seas folks had the chance to see this thing in action? Is there any hope of bolting one of those things up and re-connecting the hoses in such a way the engine will work again? Etc....? Do they make, have they made a turbo out of this thing? What sort of feedback is there about this thing? Are our engine compartments big enough for something like that? Open deck no doubt. Sand cast costs too much - or am I wrong?
-Sambo
-----Original Message-----
From: ssspoon@aol.com [mailto:ssspoon@aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 7:37 PM
To: vultureboy@mindspring.com
Cc: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: visors / ECU vs fuel pump and more
Hey Bill,
I'm told the car has been totaled by the insurance company but the mechanic
doesn't own it yet. I guess there's a chance the old owner will be like me,
and buy it back from the insurance company for 25 bucks, so hang onto that
visor please.
And now the latest.
Yes, the stumbling and missing was a loose plug wire. I don't know how the
shit that wire comes off, as hard as it is to push on !!!
And now the good stuff.
When I clipped leads from the battery to the fuel pump it worked like a charm.
Apart from the less than perfect diagnostic skills of the mechanic, what does
this mean to me (and everybody else) ?
It means, just like the ECU internet site said, a lack of spark, injector
pulse, or fuel flow is often misdiagnosed as a system component problem, when
it can actually be the ECU on the ropes. It looks like the ECU fooled us
into thinking it was the fuel pump, but it was really the ECU in the process
of giving up the ghost, because a new used pump worked fine. Then a couple
of weeks later, the ECU shut completely down making itself easier to isolate.
So after dropping a couple of hundred plus on a fuel pump R & R for nothing,
how is this a good thing?
If I really want to twist the situation around...
1. I now have an apparently dead ECU for somebody to play with, that might be
resurrected with additional value
2. I now have an extra fuel pump, and of course turbo fuel pumps are very
hard to find.
3. The actual pump assembly, with bracketry, wiring, sending unit, float,
electrical connections, etc., are attached to the pump with about three
screws and a couple of clips. The pump can be separated from all that very
easily, and is a very compact 2 inches in diameter by 5 inches long. Why is
this a good thing?
4. Because those following my quest for an air-to-water intercooler know I
will need a pump !!! Generally, the quiet pumps are not rated for continuous
operation, and the pumps designed for continuous operation are noisy. This
fuel pump is of course operated continuously, is whisper quiet, is compact,
and has an output like a cheap hooker on Saturday nite. I even think I will
be able to rig it to operate from inside the washer tank turned water
reservoir. Is that hot shit or what ?
Course I hadn't planned to spend more on the frigging pump than the
intercooler, but hey, smoke em if you got em.
More to follow
Larry air-to-water bound or bust Witherspoon, from Torrance (Los Angeles)
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