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I work in parts at a Toyota dealership, so I rarely get to drive one of the new cars sitting on the lot. Well today they needed an extra person to move a car about a half-mile, so I was anointed. It was a Camry XLE, loaded with everything except V6, a 2.4 4cyl with 160hp IIRC. This car was so new, I was probably the first person associated with the dealer to ever drive it. 5 miles!

So, knowing what I do about properly breaking in engines, I tried to be gentle on it, since no one else at that dealer is . I pulled onto a 45-mph road and accelerated gently, but the car wasn't going anywhere, so I gave it a little more, nothing. I nudged it just a little more, and it downshifted to 1st and redlined....

I wasn't upset (it's not my car ), but I am surprised that more people don't appreciate the torque-happy boxer engine design.... My car feels like it has way more torque, even though I know the Camry has more. It might be an issue of auto vs manual but I'd think a car manufacturer by now should be able to make an auto just as responsive as a manual...

Alls I know is I'm sticking to my torque-pig Subaru !

I think it might be the AWD factor it makes you feel it in the seat of your pants more. I had a 93 sedan with an auto and when compared to all my freinds auto's mine felt like it hooked up much harder

Nope.....it's the boxer motor.

They are soo much torquier then most of the engines out there.

I drove a lancer for almost a month....that thing was a gutless dog when it came to torque...

My car felt like a race car when I got it back.

My 2000 Acura Integra is useless below 4000 RPM...
Mark

My International ScoutII 304 has good torque down to about 2-300 rpm you can lug it down to hear each cylinder fire. But it doesn't like to rev past 4000 rpm.

i went to test drive a new 2003 legacy wagon and it didnt feel as torquy as my present one... weird considerint it has higher torque and HP

The torque/weight ratio is different.

90 Legacy LS Wagon auto 4WD: 23.28 weight/torque ratio (3190lbs/137ft-lbs)
02 Legacy GT Wagon auto AWD: 21.17 weight/torque ratio (3515lbs/166ft-lbs)

Yes, I'm bored

I had to drive my grandmother's camryu once. fairly recent... a '98or thereabouts. I was shocked at how little torque it had. I mean SHOCKED. the thing had no grunt at all. even my old '90 loyale felt like it had something on this car.

I think that the 90-94 Legacies, FWD, AWD, Turbo, NA are all some of the best feeling cars I have ever driven. When I worked at a Subaru dealership, we had a Toyota, Nissan, Dogde, and Subaru all within one block under the same corporate ownership. We could drive any car on any of the lots. I never drove ANYTHING that I liked even comparably to our cars. I liked a unmodified 1992 Legacy turbo better than a WRX because I know that with proper tuning it can be just as or close to as quick. There is just something about Legacies. I have always noticed how our cars seem to have much better torque or at least better feeling torque than most cars out there.
Grant

Well,

Had to take my father-in-law's new town car one day, he had blocked my Subaru.

It was gutless for a v8 - some 4.6 thing

Reminded me of my really old Mustang back in my foolish days.

Funny how some car companies have changed their models significantly - ie, my 03 legacy is a very qiet car and my 91 is a little noisier - wind noise etc, and Ford can continue to throw out cars that are so dated and noisy.

My 91 was nicer to drive than his TC