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Now i'm serious....4EAT to MT swap - 4EAT argument

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"Legacycentral" Dave is serious about considering a 4EAT to MT swap depending...
He's got a list of pros and cons
He's asking for inuts

I'll take the 4EAT side since that's probably the minority, and like the lawyers that get the obviously guilty off say, "everybody's entitled to a good defense".

So, here's what i get better in the swap:
Gas mileage.
Torque distribution.
Limited Slip.
The rest of that power the slushbox just can't transfer.

>>> JMO Transmissions close to me in Fullerton, CA will rework your torque converter to give you better gas mileage and power transfer <<<
>>> You can get a LSD for auto or stick <<<
>>> Torque distribution can be varied with Trans Control Unit modification, JMO again, and others <<<

Flocks of women who dig 5MT turbo wagons (uh...)

>>> True, but only the really good looking hot one's will force themselves on you with an ass kicking 4EAT wagon <<<

A weight savings of 50-100lbs (think of all that fluid)
Better car control on course.

>>> you have to be a hell of a driver to out control a hooked up auto with a manual <<<

What i lose:
Put it in Drive or 3 and go.
One hand in the pocket, one on the wheel on the cooooooold days.
Put it in Drive or 3 and go.
The relative simplicity of the swapover.

>>> All of the above and more <<<

For roughly the same price as rebuilding or replacing my 4EAT, i get
a number of really nice benefits.

>>> those benes are just a fleeting illusion, everything is relative, see my summation below <<<

Now i think i have to decide between 3.9 and 4.1 gears. Acceleration
vs mileage and top speed. I'm leaning towards the prior.

>>> And in summation; no doubt about it, acceleration's cool, and right off the stoplight is where you'll most often probably see the benefit of whatever you do, and if you're rarely on the freeway yes do it. But if you're mostly on the freeway, giving up the mileage for a few seconds once in a while may not be the ticket. Likewise, apart from all my objections and defensive strategy, unless you plan to live at the track more than back and forth to work, sacrificing the convenience of your daily driver for the sake of a few secondsnow and then, when there's always a bigger fish out there waiting on you, can be a never ending battle. Get a hotrod automatic and have the best of both worlds. I rest my case. <<<

J MO OF AMERICA, INC.
709 W. Commonwealth Ave.
Fullerton CA 92832-1612
714-738-0621
http://www.jmousa.com
jmo@jmousa.com

Larry Witherspoon
Torrance (Los Angeles)
ssspoon@aol.com
4EAT Turbo Legacy
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Josh Colombo

Now I'm serious....4EAT to MT swap - 4EAT argument

Post by Josh Colombo »

You guys both forgot the the biggest and most important......at least to me......

THE FUN FACTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A manual is A HELL OF A LOT FUNNER TO DRIVE!!!

I learned to drive on a toyota 5spd 4x4, and drove all around the seattle metropolitan area.....I'll deal with pushin clutch in and out more times for that FUN FACTOR!

Just my .40 cents

Josh

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<mailto:Josh@surrealmirage.com> Josh@surrealmirage.com **NEW**

"Life, an ever-changing melody
of beats and rhythm" - ME
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-----Original Message-----
From: ssspoon@aol.com [mailto:ssspoon@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 2:25 AM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Now i'm serious....4EAT to MT swap - 4EAT argument


"Legacycentral" Dave is serious about considering a 4EAT to MT swap depending...
He's got a list of pros and cons
He's asking for inuts

I'll take the 4EAT side since that's probably the minority, and like the lawyers that get the obviously guilty off say, "everybody's entitled to a good defense".

So, here's what i get better in the swap:
Gas mileage.
Torque distribution.
Limited Slip.
The rest of that power the slushbox just can't transfer.

>>> JMO Transmissions close to me in Fullerton, CA will rework your torque converter to give you better gas mileage and power transfer <<<
>>> You can get a LSD for auto or stick <<<
>>> Torque distribution can be varied with Trans Control Unit modification, JMO again, and others <<<

Flocks of women who dig 5MT turbo wagons (uh...)

>>> True, but only the really good looking hot one's will force themselves on you with an ass kicking 4EAT wagon <<<

A weight savings of 50-100lbs (think of all that fluid)
Better car control on course.

>>> you have to be a hell of a driver to out control a hooked up auto with a manual <<<

What i lose:
Put it in Drive or 3 and go.
One hand in the pocket, one on the wheel on the cooooooold days.
Put it in Drive or 3 and go.
The relative simplicity of the swapover.

>>> All of the above and more <<<

For roughly the same price as rebuilding or replacing my 4EAT, i get
a number of really nice benefits.

>>> those benes are just a fleeting illusion, everything is relative, see my summation below <<<

Now i think i have to decide between 3.9 and 4.1 gears. Acceleration
vs mileage and top speed. I'm leaning towards the prior.

>>> And in summation; no doubt about it, acceleration's cool, and right off the stoplight is where you'll most often probably see the benefit of whatever you do, and if you're rarely on the freeway yes do it. But if you're mostly on the freeway, giving up the mileage for a few seconds once in a while may not be the ticket. Likewise, apart from all my objections and defensive strategy, unless you plan to live at the track more than back and forth to work, sacrificing the convenience of your daily driver for the sake of a few secondsnow and then, when there's always a bigger fish out there waiting on you, can be a never ending battle. Get a hotrod automatic and have the best of both worlds. I rest my case. <<<

J MO OF AMERICA, INC.
709 W. Commonwealth Ave.
Fullerton CA 92832-1612
714-738-0621
http://www.jmousa.com
jmo@jmousa.com

Larry Witherspoon
Torrance (Los Angeles)
ssspoon@aol.com
4EAT Turbo Legacy
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milehial2000

Now I'm serious....4EAT to MT swap - 4EAT argument

Post by milehial2000 »

Ahaaaa a man after my own heart!!! one of my greatest pleasures is to
correctly gauge my shift point to be directly along side a "racer"
when I shift and get back on it to leave him!! The most memorable of
this being on US 40 coming back from Utah and passing a MB 450SL at
130+mph and shifting right along side of him.('67 Ferrari GT 2+2)
AL(CO)



--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Josh Colombo" <josh@s...> wrote:
> You guys both forgot the the biggest and most important......at
least to me......
>
> THE FUN FACTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> A manual is A HELL OF A LOT FUNNER TO DRIVE!!!
>
> I learned to drive on a toyota 5spd 4x4, and drove all around the
seattle metropolitan area.....I'll deal with pushin clutch in and out
more times for that FUN FACTOR!
>
> Just my .40 cents
>
> Josh
>
> ************************************
> Josh Colombo
> <mailto:Josh@s...> Josh@s... **NEW**
>
> "Life, an ever-changing melody
> of beats and rhythm" - ME
> ************************************
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ssspoon@a... [mailto:ssspoon@a...]
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 2:25 AM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Now i'm serious....4EAT to MT swap -
4EAT argument
>
>
> "Legacycentral" Dave is serious about considering a 4EAT to MT swap
depending...
> He's got a list of pros and cons
> He's asking for inuts
>
> I'll take the 4EAT side since that's probably the minority, and like
the lawyers that get the obviously guilty off say, "everybody's
entitled to a good defense".
>
> So, here's what i get better in the swap:
> Gas mileage.
> Torque distribution.
> Limited Slip.
> The rest of that power the slushbox just can't transfer.
>
> >>> JMO Transmissions close to me in Fullerton, CA will rework your
torque converter to give you better gas mileage and power transfer <<<
> >>> You can get a LSD for auto or stick <<<
> >>> Torque distribution can be varied with Trans Control Unit
modification, JMO again, and others <<<
>
> Flocks of women who dig 5MT turbo wagons (uh...)
>
> >>> True, but only the really good looking hot one's will force
themselves on you with an ass kicking 4EAT wagon <<<
>
> A weight savings of 50-100lbs (think of all that fluid)
> Better car control on course.
>
> >>> you have to be a hell of a driver to out control a hooked up
auto with a manual <<<
>
> What i lose:
> Put it in Drive or 3 and go.
> One hand in the pocket, one on the wheel on the cooooooold days.
> Put it in Drive or 3 and go.
> The relative simplicity of the swapover.
>
> >>> All of the above and more <<<
>
> For roughly the same price as rebuilding or replacing my 4EAT, i get
> a number of really nice benefits.
>
> >>> those benes are just a fleeting illusion, everything is
relative, see my summation below <<<
>
> Now i think i have to decide between 3.9 and 4.1 gears.
Acceleration
> vs mileage and top speed. I'm leaning towards the prior.
>
> >>> And in summation; no doubt about it, acceleration's cool, and
right off the stoplight is where you'll most often probably see the
benefit of whatever you do, and if you're rarely on the freeway yes do
it. But if you're mostly on the freeway, giving up the mileage for a
few seconds once in a while may not be the ticket. Likewise, apart
from all my objections and defensive strategy, unless you plan to live
at the track more than back and forth to work, sacrificing the
convenience of your daily driver for the sake of a few secondsnow and
then, when there's always a bigger fish out there waiting on you, can
be a never ending battle. Get a hotrod automatic and have the best of
both worlds. I rest my case. <<<
>
> J MO OF AMERICA, INC.
> 709 W. Commonwealth Ave.
> Fullerton CA 92832-1612
> 714-738-0621
> http://www.jmousa.com
> jmo@j...
>
> Larry Witherspoon
> Torrance (Los Angeles)
> ssspoon@a...
> 4EAT Turbo Legacy
> To unsubscribe from this group, please send an email to:
> BC-BFLegacyWorks-unsubscribe@e...
>
>
>
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Post by Josh Colombo »

Damn Straight!!! :)

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Fri 1/18/2002 11:43 AM
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Ahaaaa a man after my own heart!!! one of my greatest pleasures is to
correctly gauge my shift point to be directly along side a "racer"
when I shift and get back on it to leave him!! The most memorable of
this being on US 40 coming back from Utah and passing a MB 450SL at
130+mph and shifting right along side of him.('67 Ferrari GT 2+2)
AL(CO)



--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Josh Colombo" <josh@s...> wrote:
> You guys both forgot the the biggest and most important......at
least to me......
>
> THE FUN FACTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> A manual is A HELL OF A LOT FUNNER TO DRIVE!!!
>
> I learned to drive on a toyota 5spd 4x4, and drove all around the
seattle metropolitan area.....I'll deal with pushin clutch in and out
more times for that FUN FACTOR!
>
> Just my .40 cents
>
> Josh
>
> ************************************
> Josh Colombo
> <mailto:Josh@s...> Josh@s... **NEW**
>
> "Life, an ever-changing melody
> of beats and rhythm" - ME
> ************************************
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ssspoon@a... [mailto:ssspoon@a...]
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 2:25 AM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Now i'm serious....4EAT to MT swap -
4EAT argument
>
>
> "Legacycentral" Dave is serious about considering a 4EAT to MT swap
depending...
> He's got a list of pros and cons
> He's asking for inuts
>
> I'll take the 4EAT side since that's probably the minority, and like
the lawyers that get the obviously guilty off say, "everybody's
entitled to a good defense".
>
> So, here's what i get better in the swap:
> Gas mileage.
> Torque distribution.
> Limited Slip.
> The rest of that power the slushbox just can't transfer.
>
> >>> JMO Transmissions close to me in Fullerton, CA will rework your
torque converter to give you better gas mileage and power transfer <<<
> >>> You can get a LSD for auto or stick <<<
> >>> Torque distribution can be varied with Trans Control Unit
modification, JMO again, and others <<<
>
> Flocks of women who dig 5MT turbo wagons (uh...)
>
> >>> True, but only the really good looking hot one's will force
themselves on you with an ass kicking 4EAT wagon <<<
>
> A weight savings of 50-100lbs (think of all that fluid)
> Better car control on course.
>
> >>> you have to be a hell of a driver to out control a hooked up
auto with a manual <<<
>
> What i lose:
> Put it in Drive or 3 and go.
> One hand in the pocket, one on the wheel on the cooooooold days.
> Put it in Drive or 3 and go.
> The relative simplicity of the swapover.
>
> >>> All of the above and more <<<
>
> For roughly the same price as rebuilding or replacing my 4EAT, i get
> a number of really nice benefits.
>
> >>> those benes are just a fleeting illusion, everything is
relative, see my summation below <<<
>
> Now i think i have to decide between 3.9 and 4.1 gears.
Acceleration
> vs mileage and top speed. I'm leaning towards the prior.
>
> >>> And in summation; no doubt about it, acceleration's cool, and
right off the stoplight is where you'll most often probably see the
benefit of whatever you do, and if you're rarely on the freeway yes do
it. But if you're mostly on the freeway, giving up the mileage for a
few seconds once in a while may not be the ticket. Likewise, apart
from all my objections and defensive strategy, unless you plan to live
at the track more than back and forth to work, sacrificing the
convenience of your daily driver for the sake of a few secondsnow and
then, when there's always a bigger fish out there waiting on you, can
be a never ending battle. Get a hotrod automatic and have the best of
both worlds. I rest my case. <<<
>
> J MO OF AMERICA, INC.
> 709 W. Commonwealth Ave.
> Fullerton CA 92832-1612
> 714-738-0621
> http://www.jmousa.com
> jmo@j...
>
> Larry Witherspoon
> Torrance (Los Angeles)
> ssspoon@a...
> 4EAT Turbo Legacy
> To unsubscribe from this group, please send an email to:
> BC-BFLegacyWorks-unsubscribe@e...
>
>
>
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