Fuel Injector Upgrade

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Fuel Injector Upgrade

Post by LegacyT »

Anyone know how much HP the stock injectors can handle before they exceed 80% of their duty cycle? I'm aiming at ~300 crank hp, with a TD05. If I need new ones Any suggestions, are SVX ones good for this type of power?

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Hehe, sounds like you're going the route that Adam took with his (I mean my, hehe) turbo legacy . . . it's even the same color!!

Anyways, Adam set up the car with all the parts in my sig, and told me that 1bar was probably the max boost I could run before upgrading the injectors. I believe he had a source for aftermarket injectors, too. You might want to get in touch with him about this.

Not sure how much horsepower this thing's putting out but I was told ~250-260hp.

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Post by LegacyT »

Does your TD05 have the large 16g or small 16g compressor?
15 pounds on either one is is still way more cfm than a stock IHI RHB5, so thats pretty good, actually really good. And your having no lean run problems, you say?

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I'm not sure which compressor the turbo's running, but it's off of an STi model. I believe those may have used the smaller compressor wheel, but don't quote me on that.

As for lean-run conditions, I'll be able to let you know more after I get it dynoed and hooked up to a wideband O2 sensor sometime next month.

I haven't been able to detect any knocking whatsoever from the engine, FWIW.

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Post by teesaa »

I have been running 1,1 bar boost for over 4 years now and no problems with the injectors.

You're on the right path with the air-fuel meter. If the mixture keeps rich enought on high pressures & workloads, the you have no problems. Remember to get the injectors cleaned every now & then. They do it with ultrasound these days. Costs you about $ 100 for all injectors.
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teesaa, I am under the assuption that you have a 2.0L turbo engine whereas the US got the 2.2L . . . do you know if the engines have the same size injectors?
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Post by Legacy777 »

I am pretty sure the 2.2t motors got smaller injectors. Someone else can confirm the numbers, but I think the 2.2t motor got like 270cc injectors......I think.....am probably wrong though....
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Post by LegacyT »

The 2.2T got the 370cc pink injectors. The N/A's got the 260cc ones.

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Post by Legacy777 »

ok.....I knew it was something like that......just forgot the numbers......d'oh
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Post by IggDawg »

Will the 420cc WRX injectors fit?
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Post by Aaron's ej22t »

Igg, adam @ z1auto told me that wrx 420cc injectors won't fit cause they are top feed, and our injectors are side feed. the older 93-96 wrx injectors will fit and they are 440cc.
our stock injectors are somewhere between 360-380cc.

Legacyt, your goal is the same as mine. i recommend walbro fuel pump and some bigger injectors (not sure which ones yet).

parallel fuel mod and a better fpr would probably help too. :o
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Post by czo79 »

I have a 94 jdm wrx ej20 in my legacy turbo and it has top feed 440cc injectors. Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase a new set of 94 wrx 440cc injectors?
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Post by boostjunkie »

Contact Adam at Z1 Performance . . . just search for the company name on this board.
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Post by mTk »

Aaron's ej22t wrote:Igg, adam @ z1auto told me that wrx 420cc injectors won't fit cause they are top feed, and our injectors are side feed.
I have some top feed RS fuel rails that i could use (NO idea if they would fit) and are already set up for parallel... I guess i'll just get injectors and try it out


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Post by -K- »

After thinking about boostjunkie's setup and people on the rsliberty site, I don't think many of us are in need of bigger injectors.
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Post by imprezausa »

I’m looking for any sources for bigger injectors for EJ22T.
Any one knows one? :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Post by Brat4by4 »

search e-bay for places that are selling JDM used parts from Japan. they usually have access to junkyards or their japanese equivalent. You can get 93-96 Sti injectors or the appropriate Blitzen injectors, both 440 i do believe. Side feed is the key.
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Post by mTk »

http://www.rallispec.com/product-eng_3.htm

"RST-0622 STi 440cc Side-feed Injector (MY97/98 DOHC) $408/set"

Possibly work?

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Post by imprezausa »

mk750 wrote:http://www.rallispec.com/product-eng_3.htm

"RST-0622 STi 440cc Side-feed Injector (MY97/98 DOHC) $408/set"

Possibly work?

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No prob 8)

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