Subaru to unveil diesel drivetrain at Geneva

entirelyturbo · Post by **entirelyturbo** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:38 pm

http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/02/10 ... er-engine/

Post by **DLC** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:21 pm

I have a very hi-res version of that image. I must have stared at the details for a half hour...it's very cool.

AWD_addict · Post by **AWD_addict** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:48 am

Coolness, I'll have a daily driver Legacy that smells like fries.

Care to share the hi-res?

555BCTurbo · Post by **555BCTurbo** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:16 am

I think I will have a Diesel Legacy Rallycar in my future

evolutionmovement · Post by **evolutionmovement** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:33 am

When I build my own car I'm going to get one of these to power it providing it's no wider than the EJ.

entirelyturbo · Post by **entirelyturbo** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:05 am

As big of a Subaru fan as I am, I would hold off on owning one just yet.

It is something completely new for Subaru. Not just the diesel in general, but the direct injection (which I believe I see in that photo).

Plus, as the article said, there has never been a boxer diesel before.

I am quite curious as to how high it can rev though. It may have a heavier diesel bottom end, but it's still an inherently balanced engine.

Time will tell. Let's see how it does in real-world use.

555BCTurbo · Post by **555BCTurbo** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:09 am

Direct injection is not a new thing by any means...

And is the simplest way to make a diesel

Splinter · Post by **Splinter** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:15 am

555BCTurbo wrote:Direct injection is not a new thing by any means...

Its new for Subaru.

206er · Post by **206er** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:39 am

I'd definitely be waiting a few years to see how they turn out before getting one. knowing subaru theyll most likely be one hell of an engine though.
DLC can you post or link to that high res pic, the small one makes my eyes hurt.

evolutionmovement · Post by **evolutionmovement** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:46 am

They go hand in hand. Direct gas injection stems from diesels and isn't new tech at all. The only worry I can think of would be head gaskets, but it's a 2.0. I still would bet the 2.2 closed deck could handle diesel use. The bottom end is about as strong an aluminum block as you can get. Honda's had an alloy diesel and I'm not aware of any problems (not sold here, though).

Just got to keep an eye on the gas gauge. It's easy to forget you need it with a diesel and then you have to purge the fuel system. I think this would be sick in a sub-2000 lbs 3-wheeler.

Splinter · Post by **Splinter** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:46 am

Subaru likes to royally screw things up once before they do something amazing

See: EA, EJ engines.

555BCTurbo · Post by **555BCTurbo** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:54 am

They didn't screw anything up EJ related until the EJ251 came out

entirelyturbo · Post by **entirelyturbo** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:19 am

What about the EJ25D?

555BCTurbo · Post by **555BCTurbo** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:28 am

that's what I meant by EJ251...was I wrong with the code?

entirelyturbo · Post by **entirelyturbo** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:36 am

[nerd]EJ25D is the 96-99 DOHC 2.5 engine. EJ251 is the first itineration of the SOHC 2.5.[/nerd]

TheSubaruJunkie · Post by **TheSubaruJunkie** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:30 am

And for the record, they didnt screw up the EA until they overhauled it and added timing belts with the EA82. The EA81 was, and still is a very bulletproof design, capable of 500,000+ miles.

Regardless, i welcome the subaru diesel to the industry, just hope they roll with it and dont give up after 3 years.

-Brian

evolutionmovement · Post by **evolutionmovement** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:10 am

The EA81 was the last of the ohv EAs and were great motors with a fun punch of torque off the line for such a small engine, but the earlier EAs from the '70's were terrible on HGs. My mechanic said he used to line them up all day long.

93forestpearl · Post by **93forestpearl** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:28 am

Do I see variable valve timing? Also, the diriect injection fits nicely where a spark plug would be.

entirelyturbo · Post by **entirelyturbo** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:05 am

We have animation now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yn9wE-vzKM

Post by **DLC** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:57 am

Very nice video.

555BCTurbo · Post by **555BCTurbo** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:43 am

That video made me giddy...I will SO be buying a Turbo Diesel Legacy when it comes out!!!!!

Splinter · Post by **Splinter** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:58 pm

Whats with the turbo placement?

Post by **Legacy777** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:38 pm

Turbo looks like it has variable diffuser vanes....pretty cool.

Bheinen74 · Post by **Bheinen74** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 4:45 am

wow, timing chain instead of belt

greg donovan · Post by **greg donovan** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 4:35 pm

Bheinen74 wrote:wow, timing chain instead of belt

the EZ30 uses a timing chain too.

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Subaru to unveil diesel drivetrain at Geneva

Subaru to unveil diesel drivetrain at Geneva