wobbly shifter :(

wildacex187 · Post by **wildacex187** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:18 am

hi i just recently purchased a legacy ss. its a fun car but the shifter is all wobbly. wat can be the culprit here? i was told something about tranny bushings but wat came to mind was the tranny mount.

n2x4 · Post by **n2x4** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:14 pm

New shift bushings like these:
http://turninconcepts10.chainreactionwe ... 02840dc2bc
and a new return spring like this:
http://bbs.legacycentral.org/viewtopic.php?t=20945

would probably help out a lot.

Threshld1 · Post by **Threshld1** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:10 pm

Note those Kartboy bushings are for the stay bar and while they will help a ton they will not eliminate all the slop. I found the bushings on my knuckle between the gearbox selector fork and the linkage were missing entirely. These can be gotten from the dealer, prolly going to have to be special ordered but they make a HUGE difference. Or just do what i did and find yourself a WRX linkage and get the kartboys and call it a day. Here are some pics if it helps:

http://s31.photobucket.com/albums/c389/ ... 20Linkage/

wildacex187 · Post by **wildacex187** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:11 pm

the knuckle meaning the one with the rubber dust shield? do u know the part number by any chance?

wildacex187 · Post by **wildacex187** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:17 pm

is this the one u talking about threshld1? http://turninconcepts10.chainreactionwe ... 02840dc2bc

Threshld1 · Post by **Threshld1** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:23 pm

wildacex187 wrote:is this the one u talking about threshld1? http://turninconcepts10.chainreactionwe ... 02840dc2bc

That is the one between the lever and the linkage inside the cabin. Then the other two sets of two are on the knuckle which looks like this:

http://turninconcepts10.chainreactionwe ... 02840dc2bc

I do not know the part# off hand, ill dig through my pictures when i get home and see if i can find them.

As for the square one it goes on the back side of the stay bar (the rod the ball of the shift lever seats in) and has the circular bushing in the front. It bolts to the back side of the chassis. Seen here:

http://s31.photobucket.com/albums/c389/ ... CN0647.jpg

FYI these kartboy bushings are universal for 5mt staybars. IE it will work with the old legacy or a wrx assembly.

Threshld1 · Post by **Threshld1** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:31 pm

Oh i should also add that knuckle i linked you to is the newer version. As you can see in this picture:

http://s31.photobucket.com/albums/c389/ ... CN0643.jpg

The old legacy style has a female end with the bushings in the lever bar where the WRX one has them in the knuckle.

wildacex187 · Post by **wildacex187** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:33 pm

wow thank u so much. u think i should get the upgraded knuckle bushing? 80 bux is kinda steep, how much was it at the dealer?

Threshld1 · Post by **Threshld1** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:03 pm

well im suggesting get new bushings for the old style legacy knuckle from subaru. The updated style knuckle from that site will not work with the old legacy shift assembly, you have to get the entire assembly from a newer rs or wrx

wildacex187 · Post by **wildacex187** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:32 pm

cool thank u. so i ask for a shifter knuckle bushing right? also which walbro did u use on your car? is it drop in?

Threshld1 · Post by **Threshld1** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:46 pm

Well you need 4 bushings for the knuckle, i think they are all the same but im not sure, ill get you part numbers when i get home.

The walbro is just the normal 255lph pump i got local with a subaru install kit. Everything should drop right in

douglas vincent · Post by **douglas vincent** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 1:36 am

Wobbly shifter also means....... shifter is about to fall off!!!!!!

Yep, happened to TWO of my cars. Now I have factory short shifter.

wildacex187 · Post by **wildacex187** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:11 am

fall off as in break? thats scary

douglas vincent · Post by **douglas vincent** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:06 am

It doesnt break, it simply falls off the metal post that it is attached to. This post is very short, but still wholly funtional.

n2x4 · Post by **n2x4** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:21 pm

There are 2 very different versions of the legacy shifter. Doug, I think you're referring to the first version, as the second revision was a one piece design.

wildacex187, what year is your legacy?

entirelyturbo · Post by **entirelyturbo** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:57 am

The one-piece knuckle that you guys are talking about is part # 35047AC030. The newer Subarus use this from the factory, so that in the event they need shifter bushings later, it's a couple fewer steps.

This knuckle, as others have said, is necessary to bolt stock WRX or newer short-throw shifter designs to the shift rod on the transmission. Legacy777 used it to install his STi short-throw shifter in his Legacy when he did his AWD/5MT swap.

wildacex187 · Post by **wildacex187** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:32 am

my legacy is 1994 and its white with a rust pearl lol.

subyluvr that part number will directly bolt on to stock shifter?

can i use this shifter on my car?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/93-94-95 ... 3571QQrdZ1

how about this pulley?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/93-01-94 ... 2922QQrdZ1

i know these are cheap ebay parts but i dont want to pour too much money into this car. i have another money pit for that

quick question. sometimes when i brake the pedal goes down about an inch from where i move to and the brake pressure doesnt change. the last owner told me its hill assist something. can it be disabled without disabling the abs? hows the abs on these cars anyway?

wildacex187 · Post by **wildacex187** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:06 am

i've been reading up and saw that 94's are rare to come with vlsd's. i would really like to have at least a rear vlsd for the winter. will something like this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-SUBA ... enameZWD1V
fit into the r160 housing?

can i use a r200 vlsd instead since i have one off of my s13 with shafts?

wildacex187 · Post by **wildacex187** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:44 am

i know i should have started a new thread but i searched and couldnt really find an answer. can i use a scanner tool to read the check engine code without having to resort to the black and green connectors?

entirelyturbo · Post by **entirelyturbo** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:41 pm

wildacex187 wrote:subyluvr that part number will directly bolt on to stock shifter?

No. If you use that knuckle, you have to use the new-style shifter. If you want to keep your stock setup, then you'll have to replace the bushings in the stock knuckle.

greg donovan · Post by **greg donovan** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:48 pm

wildacex187 wrote:wow thank u so much. u think i should get the upgraded knuckle bushing? 80 bux is kinda steep, how much was it at the dealer?

start with the return spring.

it is the cheapest option. and if it solves the problem? awesome. if not? you are only out 1.50. and you have a new spring.

wildacex187 · Post by **wildacex187** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 7:49 pm

i have access to a lift, will the spring be hard to change?

n2x4 · Post by **n2x4** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:31 pm

I did it with a jack and 2 jackstands. It's easy. 15min. max.

greg donovan · Post by **greg donovan** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:41 pm

i just crawled under the car. but a lift would make it really easy.

wildacex187 · Post by **wildacex187** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:57 pm

ok so i did the bushing and the spring. it helped one cuz i didnt even have a spring there lol. anyway its a lot better BUT i still have a slight prob. when the car is in gear i can still move the shifter from side to side. how can i stop it from moving from side to side while in gear?

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wobbly shifter :(

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