catch can setups
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catch can setups
would either of these be good?
is one better?
alternate routing?
is one better?
alternate routing?
Summer Fun = 1991 Civic Si Turbo
Winter Fun = 1991 Legacy Sport Sedan
Winter Fun = 1991 Legacy Sport Sedan
You should use the first one.
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In my own personal experience, those don't work good at all. I had one like that, and a GReddy catch can (the old square one) and neither worked well at all. They would catch some oil vapors, but they didn't pull the water out like they should.
If you're going to buy a catch can, make it a one-time purchase. Believe me, even though these cost more, they're worth it.
http://www.eliteengineeringusa.com/Catch_Can.html
If you're going to buy a catch can, make it a one-time purchase. Believe me, even though these cost more, they're worth it.
http://www.eliteengineeringusa.com/Catch_Can.html
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there are a few different ones out there that employ the same design and are around $100. It would be worthwhile to spend a bit more on something that actually works is all im trying to say.
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Be careful in the winter though. If you make a bunch of short trips they can ice up, blocking the ports in the catch can, and causing your motor to build pressure in the crankcase.
This happened to me, and my turbo spit out a quart of oil between the two ends of it. Its a BB Garrett, so it is still fine, but journal bearing turbos don't appreciate that so much. I also had a ton of fun cleaning all that oil out of my intercooler and charge piping. Thank goodness I didn't blow out any of my cam or crank seals. I might have been a little more upset.
I suggest you take off any catch can in the winter, so it doesn't turn your car into a smoke machine. It has happened to a few people I know. Its only an issue when you get down to the sub zero temps or below. The day it happened to me we had a high of 2°
This happened to me, and my turbo spit out a quart of oil between the two ends of it. Its a BB Garrett, so it is still fine, but journal bearing turbos don't appreciate that so much. I also had a ton of fun cleaning all that oil out of my intercooler and charge piping. Thank goodness I didn't blow out any of my cam or crank seals. I might have been a little more upset.
I suggest you take off any catch can in the winter, so it doesn't turn your car into a smoke machine. It has happened to a few people I know. Its only an issue when you get down to the sub zero temps or below. The day it happened to me we had a high of 2°
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I can say I haven't been impressed with the greddy one. I'll probably try to add some baffles and or some steel wool in there.
Josh
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Yeah that's true....SS or copper.
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What do the aftermarket ones usually run inside as a filtration unit? I read in Import Tuner recently that they actually gained 2 hp on an RX-7 by installing a oil catch can.
Jason
'92 LSS "Trixie" - TD04, '06 WRX TMIC, Invidia D/P & TXS U/P, 3" APEX'i CBE, custom intake, TXS MBC & BPV
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Perrin LCP, WRX & H6 brakes, S/S lines, Cusco H-brace & RSTB, AGX's, Progress springs, SimplySubie fender braces
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The typical ones you see for sale everywhere are just an empty can. No baffles, no filtration, so it's basically whatever gets caught in there might stay, or it may get sucked right through to the intake like it normally would have.
2hp gain on an RX7 by putting a catch can on? that's bs. 2hp is well within any dyno's error range, so they could have seen a 2hp gain by waiting 5min and running the car again with no mods at all.
2hp gain on an RX7 by putting a catch can on? that's bs. 2hp is well within any dyno's error range, so they could have seen a 2hp gain by waiting 5min and running the car again with no mods at all.
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Nope, they did a month long trial & test. It was catch can vs. open air breather with a mini K&N style filter vs. OEM breather system.supra90turbo wrote:so they could have seen a 2hp gain by waiting 5min and running the car again with no mods at all.
Jason
'92 LSS "Trixie" - TD04, '06 WRX TMIC, Invidia D/P & TXS U/P, 3" APEX'i CBE, custom intake, TXS MBC & BPV
Perrin LCP, WRX & H6 brakes, S/S lines, Cusco H-brace & RSTB, AGX's, Progress springs, SimplySubie fender braces
'92 LSS "Trixie" - TD04, '06 WRX TMIC, Invidia D/P & TXS U/P, 3" APEX'i CBE, custom intake, TXS MBC & BPV
Perrin LCP, WRX & H6 brakes, S/S lines, Cusco H-brace & RSTB, AGX's, Progress springs, SimplySubie fender braces
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But, my point being 2hp is well within any dyno's error range, so whether it was 2 hours later or 2 weeks later, it still doesn't mean crap. You can gain 2hp by driving 10 miles to a different altitude or a different temperature.
2hp isn't worth mentioning as a "gain". That's all I'm saying.
2hp isn't worth mentioning as a "gain". That's all I'm saying.
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I agree. There's no way you gained power with a catch can.supra90turbo wrote:But, my point being 2hp is well within any dyno's error range, so whether it was 2 hours later or 2 weeks later, it still doesn't mean crap. You can gain 2hp by driving 10 miles to a different altitude or a different temperature.
2hp isn't worth mentioning as a "gain". That's all I'm saying.
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All catch cans suck.
All of them.
This on the other hand does NOT suck
http://www.mann-hummel.com/group/upload ... UCmOK5.pdf
I bet you'll gain some horsepower once the atomized oil has been removed.
Originally designed for large diesel trucks, so its quite large
All of them.
This on the other hand does NOT suck
http://www.mann-hummel.com/group/upload ... UCmOK5.pdf
I bet you'll gain some horsepower once the atomized oil has been removed.
Originally designed for large diesel trucks, so its quite large
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Lots of places sell it. In fact the famous corvette tuner Lingenfelter resells it under their own name http://www.lingenfelter.com/Merchant2/m ... gory_Code=
There are better places to get it though. Look to pay between 100-200 new.
I heard about it in the built motor discussion section on Nasioc. Its probably the ONLY place on Nasioc not filled with idiots.
There are better places to get it though. Look to pay between 100-200 new.
I heard about it in the built motor discussion section on Nasioc. Its probably the ONLY place on Nasioc not filled with idiots.
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Oh, how true! Thanks for the info!ciper wrote:I heard about it in the built motor discussion section on Nasioc. Its probably the ONLY place on Nasioc not filled with idiots.
Jason
'92 LSS "Trixie" - TD04, '06 WRX TMIC, Invidia D/P & TXS U/P, 3" APEX'i CBE, custom intake, TXS MBC & BPV
Perrin LCP, WRX & H6 brakes, S/S lines, Cusco H-brace & RSTB, AGX's, Progress springs, SimplySubie fender braces
'92 LSS "Trixie" - TD04, '06 WRX TMIC, Invidia D/P & TXS U/P, 3" APEX'i CBE, custom intake, TXS MBC & BPV
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