pp6 vs greddy emanage
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pp6 vs greddy emanage
dooing som reading online , what is benifit of the pp6 used as a stand alone instead of the emanage package from greaddy ?
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the pp6 is a piggyback, not a standalone.
i dont know anything about the greddy stuff.
but the pp6 is pretty good for light moded vechicals.
i dont know anything about the greddy stuff.
but the pp6 is pretty good for light moded vechicals.
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greddy e-manage +1
spend the dough and get the e-manage ultimate so you can map boost as well.
they are both piggy back ignition/fuel controllers. I know the e-manage is better suited to obd1 type cars such as ours.
spend the dough and get the e-manage ultimate so you can map boost as well.
they are both piggy back ignition/fuel controllers. I know the e-manage is better suited to obd1 type cars such as ours.
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i pick this from a thread posted a while back from another fourm , it involves a driver upgrade for 80 $$ for the pp6 -
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RalliTEK has developed a stand alone fuelling system for PerfectPower6. The standalone setup will allow use of larger injectors in MAP cars, where this was very difficult to tune previously.
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The P6 Injector driver allows you to control fuel directly with your P6. NO MORE OPEN/CLOSED LOOP ISSUES! We have the system up and running and are currently working on maps for different applications. Like all standalone ecus the tuning is more difficult the a piggyback application, but the results can be better as well!
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Our Injector Driver runs $80 and will be added to the website soon! I started this thread to answer any questions.
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wait. the pp6 can be a standalone now?
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YES!!!
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We have a new Injector Driver that will allow standalone fuelling with your P6!
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What can I tell you about it?
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The new module is an Injector driver and signal inverter. You can now use the 'Injection' screen in your P6 software to fire your primary fuel injectors. You interupt the injector output wires at the ecu as well as hooking up some signal wires, and +/- and your P6 can now fuel your car. Full Standalone fuel system.
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Remember one thing though. As with all standalones the power stuff is now easy, and making it run nice and smooth at low speeds with out running rich can be difficult. You will enter the the milliseconds you want the injector held open instead of modifying a voltage signal like the MAF/MAP sensors. This is more difficult, but there is no closed loop to fight you. Have any AFR you want at any time.
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RalliTEK has developed a stand alone fuelling system for PerfectPower6. The standalone setup will allow use of larger injectors in MAP cars, where this was very difficult to tune previously.
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The P6 Injector driver allows you to control fuel directly with your P6. NO MORE OPEN/CLOSED LOOP ISSUES! We have the system up and running and are currently working on maps for different applications. Like all standalone ecus the tuning is more difficult the a piggyback application, but the results can be better as well!
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Our Injector Driver runs $80 and will be added to the website soon! I started this thread to answer any questions.
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wait. the pp6 can be a standalone now?
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YES!!!
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We have a new Injector Driver that will allow standalone fuelling with your P6!
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What can I tell you about it?
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The new module is an Injector driver and signal inverter. You can now use the 'Injection' screen in your P6 software to fire your primary fuel injectors. You interupt the injector output wires at the ecu as well as hooking up some signal wires, and +/- and your P6 can now fuel your car. Full Standalone fuel system.
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Remember one thing though. As with all standalones the power stuff is now easy, and making it run nice and smooth at low speeds with out running rich can be difficult. You will enter the the milliseconds you want the injector held open instead of modifying a voltage signal like the MAF/MAP sensors. This is more difficult, but there is no closed loop to fight you. Have any AFR you want at any time.
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is obd1 concerning certain model years ? i m in a 91 turbo sedanImprezive wrote:greddy e-manage +1
..better suited to obd1 type
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OBD1 ECUs are up until 95 I believe. 96 was when they made everyone switch to the new OBD2 ECU system.
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Sounds like it is a standalone fuel controller. I don't believe that the eManage can control the ignition on its own, but I could be wrong.
Honestly, I think the MafTranslator Pro is a much much better option than the two of those. The only thing is, it requires you to have a wideband, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Closed loop fuel tracking, very nice closed loop boost control, and no more silly MAF sensors.
To each his own.
Honestly, I think the MafTranslator Pro is a much much better option than the two of those. The only thing is, it requires you to have a wideband, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Closed loop fuel tracking, very nice closed loop boost control, and no more silly MAF sensors.
To each his own.
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93forestpearl wrote:
it requires you to have a wideband, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
wow i checked the website and dam no kidding the translator sounds painless in comparison
what is the purpose of a wideband - there is no exlpaination of a wideband on the MAf website -
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N1446 wrote: wow i checked the website and dam no kidding the translator sounds painless in comparison
what is the purpose of a wideband - there is no exlpaination of a wideband on the MAf website -
Sounds like you have some reading to do before you start messing with engine management systems.
A wideband oxygen sensor has a much wider range that it can read the oxygen content in your exhaust. This means it is useful for tuning at afr's less than 13.5:1 and 15:1, which is absolutely necessary when trying to tune an engine, especially a turbocharged one.
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yeahh , i m very good mechanically , not soo fresh in the electronics department 
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May I suggest some reading material? I like this book a lot. It gave me the balls to tune my setup myself. It is rather aggressive too.
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/How-to ... 828/?itm=3
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/How-to ... 828/?itm=3
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