Strut Bars?

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Strut Bars?

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is there a thread that im missing or does anyone have a rear strut bar on their leg? where can i get them and all the regular questions.
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Post by DLC »

BC strut tower bars are not that common. I came across a pair of CUSCO bars at Cobb Tuning a year and a half ago and sold them to members on the board.

They're very helpful on the wagon, as I can speak from personal experience, but not quite as much on the sedans.
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Have a well-made Cusco-looking one in my wagon and it knocked off a high-mileage creak or two. Didn't really notice it being significantly stiffer, but eliminating the creaks was worth it.
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Post by A1Fiddler »

So does anyone know where we can get said bars? What about the cheap Ebay ones for Imprezas. Can they be modified to fit?
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Both of the bars I have on my sedan are meant for a GC.
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Did you notice a difference when you put them on?
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I definitely did when I put the front on, all of the creaking noises that used to happen in the dash when I would hit hard bumps completely disappeared. So it definitely stiffened up the chassis.

The rear one I am unsure about, because I put it on the same time that I put my rear swaybar on. That said, the combination of both of those made a TREMENDOUS difference. The car almost WANTS to oversteer around corners rather than understeer. I did learn that if I'm going around a corner fast enough while it's raining and I'm mid-turn, that if I gas it just enough, it'll kick out the rear end :twisted:

So in my opinion, yes, the strut bars helped. Even if they didn't do anything performance-wise (which they do), it would almost be worth it to buy them just for the sake of getting rid of all of the creaks and groans in the car.



Also, I remember reading somewhere that the old Legacy rally cars originally started off without a front and rear strut bar, but eventually a small crack would start at the bottom middle of the windshield. They thought it was because of chassis flex, so sure enough they threw on the strut bars to help and the problem never arose again.
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Post by evolutionmovement »

I also noticed a difference in stiffness and I lost a creak with the front bar, but little with the rear, as I already stated. Front is definitely worthwhile.
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Post by asc_up »

And as Dave already mentioned, I think the rear bar is more worthwhile for wagons, but I figured that it couldn't hurt to have on my sedan.
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Post by evolutionmovement »

The rear bar is definitely more debatable for the wagon, I think, because you have to remove it to fully utilize the interior space and I didn't notice an appreciable difference beyond the squeak reduction. However, my bar is simple to remove if you keep an allen wrench handy, leaving the brackets in place.
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Post by asc_up »

Same here.
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Post by race_to_live »

i really would like to get both mainly for the creaks...not for cornering :D. but i see a bit of a problem with the tmic i have. i did the sabb mod. and it is close to the hood and close to...i don't know what to call it... the dash maybe? well where the wipers are. so what do i do?
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Firewall or bulkhead. I think some people have oriented them so the bend faces forward.
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Post by asc_up »

If your intercooler sits against the firewall, then you need to get a strut tower bar that is either forward-facing or raised. Either one should clear your intercooler then.
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Post by race_to_live »

can someone show me a pic? i mean i understand what is going on but im a visual learner ha.

another question is where to get one. i know a bunch of stuff swaps from year to year but what year fits the 91 sedans?
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Post by Legacy Konig »

There's a great Australian based suspension company called Whiteline, just google it.

The site probably has what you're looking for, they have it all BC/BF and whatnot.

One problem though, shipping and handling from Australia is f'n outrageous. I wanted to order a pair of rear sway bar mounts, with the poly urethane bushings- shipping was f'n outrageous at $92.00, just for shipping. So I didn't get them.


http://www.whiteline.com.au -website

http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_det ... ber=KSB615 -this is the http to the strut bracing you're looking for, if you've got the money, it's your's.

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Post by Legacy777 »

You can find US retailers that sell whiteline products.
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Post by kimokalihi »

Legacy Konig wrote:There's a great Australian based suspension company called Whiteline, just google it.

The site probably has what you're looking for, they have it all BC/BF and whatnot.

One problem though, shipping and handling from Australia is f'n outrageous. I wanted to order a pair of rear sway bar mounts, with the poly urethane bushings- shipping was f'n outrageous at $92.00, just for shipping. So I didn't get them.


http://www.whiteline.com.au -website

http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_det ... ber=KSB615 -this is the http to the strut bracing you're looking for, if you've got the money, it's your's.

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I got my 20mm adjustable rear bar from those guys and it came fast. Got here in a week or less. From australia! Those guys are here in the states but they are a whiteline dealer and they have whiteline drop ship your parts straight from australia so you don't have to cover the cost of shipping it to them first and then out to you.

I paid $220 for my rear bar and shipping was free (or included in the price, however you want to look at it) but I believe it was a lot more expensive directly from whiteline.
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Post by kimokalihi »

I just searched never enough auto and they don't have it on their web site but call them up I'm sure if whiteline carries it they can order it for you and you may save money.
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Post by race_to_live »

so i was looking and i found some from...

http://boxer4racing.com/suspension.htm# ... %20Bracing

What is the type "OS"?

what one is better OS or 40mm?
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Post by DLC »

OS is the type I've always had. Oblong aluminum bars with blue endplates.

OS will do fine.
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Post by asc_up »

Exactly what I have for my rear bar as well.
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Post by macipusy »

Anyone know which strut tower bars clear the 06 WRX iC?
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Post by Apex3 »

I've heard Subaru carries Whiteline, maybe it was an Australia thing or a lie though
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Post by DLC »

I'll sell you a front CUSCO OS bar, if you're interested, but my rear bar wont' fit your car.
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