*update* 11.5 @ 117MPH RS Liberty

rsstiboy · Post by **rsstiboy** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:55 pm

heres a pic i found on the RS Liberty Club website

and a video of the run can be found here, click on the picture of the blue RS, its a 2.7mb file

the car has a stroked 2ltr to 2.2, stock MY98 wrx heads, turbonetics t3/t4, dominelli race auto (switchable from 2wd to AWD) and has over 250kw@wheels!!!

ciper · Post by **ciper** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:43 pm

Im guessing its about 420Hp crank? The bumper mod is cool. Intercooler is pretty small considering, just shows that many people go overboard.

Hmm, automatic? Nuff said

boostjunkie · Post by **boostjunkie** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 11:01 pm

Can it beat a sport bike?

LegacyT · Post by **LegacyT** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 12:07 am

Holly shit, now thats cool.

Mark,

NuwanD · Post by **NuwanD** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 1:08 am

not a fan of that particular i/c setup but that car sure looks sweet

great colour as well

THAWA · Post by **THAWA** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 4:03 am

awesome

91White-T · Post by **91White-T** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 4:31 am

That RS is real nice, but what the hell is that truck its racing, that thing's damn fast too!

J-MoNeY · Post by **J-MoNeY** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 7:24 am

Yeah....*blows load*

BAC5.2 · Post by **BAC5.2** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 6:22 pm

ciper wrote:Hmm, automatic? Nuff said

huh?

mTk · Post by **mTk** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 7:03 pm

BAC5.2 wrote:
ciper wrote:Hmm, automatic? Nuff said
huh?

Ciper is the BBS 4eat zealot

MK

Slick1100 · Post by **Slick1100** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 8:16 pm

Ok, so maybe there is something to this whole turbo idea. I'll take mine with an automatic as well, thanks.

Sweet car, and exactly the color I was thinking of painting my car.

ciper · Post by **ciper** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 8:50 pm

BAC5.2: Show me another legacy or subaru for that matter with a manual with similar speed. From what I know most of the fastest imprezas are automatic. Let me find a link to a couple

rsstiboy · Post by **rsstiboy** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 10:24 pm

Australia N.S.W David Khoury Subaru Liberty RS EJ20 10.72@138MPH Eastern Creek Raceway

heres a link for you ciper http://www.rigoliracing.com.au/libertyrs.htm

should I say touche! yet?

BAC5.2 · Post by **BAC5.2** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 11:22 pm

ciper wrote:BAC5.2: Show me another legacy or subaru for that matter with a manual with similar speed. From what I know most of the fastest imprezas are automatic. Let me find a link to a couple

Oh, I thought you were DOUBTING an automatic's ability to be fast in a straight line. Hence the confusion

ciper · Post by **ciper** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 1:12 am

RSSTIBOY, normally I would say you got me. Except for the fact that the SAME SHOP has:

"Subaru Impreza WRX Wagon 1999
8.95 @ 147mph (auto)

Worlds Fastest WRX, Australia's Fastest 4cyl 4WD"
http://www.rigoliracing.com.au/wrx_wagon_dragcar.html
Yep, even they chose to use an auto for the fastest

So no soup for you.

Bac5.2: I was promoting the ability for an automatic to be fastest in a straight line. Did you forget this thread? http://bbs.legacycentral.org/viewtopic.php?t=15052

ciper · Post by **ciper** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 1:35 am

Worlds fastest new generation WRX.
"Easystreet wrx just ran 9.60 @ 144.7mph on 35psi."
Once again running an automatic.
Do you guys see the trend that all the fastest cars are auto?

Two videos of a 9.6 second run
Inside view http://www.esxmotorsports.com/video/supra.mov (wow!)
Outside view http://www.esxmotorsports.com/video/9.6 ... _Uncut.avi (cuss word at end as supra fan is pissed of a subaru won)

The car in question has a stock automatic with a valve body job, new clutches and "manumatic" electronics.
http://www.esxmotorsports.com/esx.htm

Should I continue to find more "worlds fastest xxxxx subaru" with automatics

rsstiboy: Still looking? Or do you give in?

evolutionmovement · Post by **evolutionmovement** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 1:57 am

Automatics are better for drag racing.

If this were not true most if not all draggers would use manuals, but they don't.

Especially with Subarus and their known weak manual transmissions for high HP rpm drops.

And I'm a guy who loves manuals.

Steve

ciper · Post by **ciper** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 2:52 am

I feel the same. I also feel that too many of you base your opinion about automatics from what others tell you and from some piece of crap car you drove when you where in high school.

Tell me this, drag racing is a measure of straight line speed right? Straight line speed is available power and traction.

Changing direction and braking are mostly controlled by the items between the strut mount and the road.

What Im getting at is there should be no application where a manual transmission is automatically better, I dont accept that automatics are only good for drags but not mountain twisties for example.

evolutionmovement · Post by **evolutionmovement** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 3:25 am

The reason I like manuals is that I wholly enjoy them much more than automatics...in the right car. 1969 Dodge Charger, old Caprice, give me an auto - it suits the car better.

A well driven well-designed auto can be a match for a manual (some autos are pure suck - too much hunting, won't let you redline, and too much lag. Not all are like that). I find it better to pre-balance a car smoothly with a manual, but it takes a lot of skill to do so. An auto shifts more smoothly than most people drive manuals which is better on twisty roads where abrupt weight change can spin you off. In a lot of situations you can just manual shift an auto to make up for slow kickdown or inoportune shifting. There is the weight penalty, but on a street car its a minor consideration and better distributed than a lot of accessories people add to their cars or comfort features most cars also have.

All an auto really is anyway is an old-fashioned pre-selector with a torque converter. Pre-selectors were used extensively in race cars in the thirties. The Model-T even had a planetary gear design for its transmission.

The Chaparrals and a Lexus GS race team (was it the Speedvision series? Some production class road race series...) a few years back had autos.

Steve

rsstiboy · Post by **rsstiboy** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 3:45 am

ciper wrote:BAC5.2: Show me another legacy or subaru for that matter with a manual with similar speed.

i did in manual as you asked. the fastest wrx's run auto's but you asked about liberties/legacies, the fastest 2 wrxs in the worls run 8.93 and 8.98 respectively, both are from tony rigoli performance in Australia

Noodles · Post by **Noodles** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 4:43 am

wooo hooo. drag racing.
you know those cars that go round corners.... the really fast ones that dont just go in a sraight line and the driver needs control over the engine aswell as steering... what are they called? ahhh yes, racing cars. all manuals (cept for select, read rare/bizarre, race teams).
autos are for traffic and drag racing.

Noodles · Post by **Noodles** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 4:55 am

ciper wrote: I also feel that too many of you base your opinion about automatics from what others tell you and from some piece of crap car you drove when you where in high school.

I base my opinions on 2004 pseudo-manual autos ('04 accord euro & '04 volvo turbo awd) and i still beg to get taken manual driving (this'll shoot holes through my argument but i'm a learner driver

, with 120hrs and an advanced driving course mind you

oh yeh, i'm certified

still wont bring my insurance premium down ). hell, auto's might be better.... but are they as fun?

this shits like religion. every is trying to force their ideas of whats better down each others throats. each to their own.

Noodles · Post by **Noodles** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 4:59 am

autos are for traffic and old people. drag racing should be manual so maybe a little thing such as driver skill would come into the equation.

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:05 am

Dude, you can write your answers all in one post. :)

Driver skill is actually important in driving an automatic right. That's actually one reason I prefer manuals -- I'm not good at driving automatics and I'm too lazy to learn.

THAWA · Post by **THAWA** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:21 am

that's the first time i've heard someone say that. I'm indeffferent on the situation. Some cars are better with autos and some are better with manuals. My next subaru will be a manual one way or another, not because I hate the 4eat or anything like that. I'd jjust like to get a feel for what the subaru manual feels like.

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update 11.5 @ 117MPH RS Liberty

update 11.5 @ 117MPH RS Liberty