Anyone not have ABS?

[Adam West]

So 25 unsprung weight is too light if you remove all. What's someone else's best guess?

Splinter, when you get done can we trouble you to jump on a scale holding a box of that stuff?

[Splinter]

Believe it or not I dont actually own a scale.. lol

and its 25lbs of sprung weight (not on the rotating assembly)

Its MAYBE 5 lbs of unsprung weight (the ABS locator wheels on the hubs)

[93forestpearl]

ABS does not make a car stop in a shorter distance.

Pretty much all automotive publications have proven ABS does help stop faster in a straight line, whether it be in the dry or wet. Humans cannot regulate brake force nearly as fast as a computer can, especially near the threshold of lockup.

[jamal]

ABS does not make a car stop in a shorter distance.

Pretty much all automotive publications have proven ABS does help stop faster in a straight line, whether it be in the dry or wet. Humans cannot regulate brake force nearly as fast as a computer can, especially near the threshold of lockup.

The purpose of ABS is not primarily to stop the car in a shorter distance. The goal is to keep the car in control.

Halfway decent threshold braking will stop shorter than abs. Someone who can't do any better than to mash the brake pedal shouldn't be driving.

[Splinter]

I dont think Ive seen any credible source claim that ABS helps you stop faster, only that it prevents loss of control due to wheel lockup

[93forestpearl]

In SCC, cars without ABS always struggle in their braking tests. They saythe same thing. At the same time, stopping from 70-0 and measuring the distance isn't indicative of how well the brakes will perform on a road course, which they also usually mention.

[jamal]

Oh, so we've gone from "all automotive publications" to sport compact car. Last I checked that magazine is one big rice catalog filled with inaccurate information.

Regardless, this isn't the topic and if you want to discuss it further I suggest you start a new thread. Or at least read something other than SCC.

[SemperGuard]

Editors are not drivers. You can't trust their results. IT'd be like sticking you or me into the car.

And there is no way that ABS stops the car faster than not having ABS. Engaging ABS makes the car take a longer distance to stop than threshold braking, which you can do with an ABS equipped car.

[Manarius]

If insurance companies are willing to give discounts to people who have ABS on their cars, it must be a good safety feature...

[Adam West]

ABS = anti-lock braking system...

Not distance but control. You can turn while braking to avoid objects...

[evolutionmovement]

Threshold braking is not as effective on uneven pavement. ABS isn't as effective in gravel or snow.

[Splinter]

So anyway guys.... about that brake line routing...

[SemperGuard]

What about it? Primary to front, secondary to rear.

[All_talk]

Yep, One MC output to both fronts, the other to your adjustable prop valve, then split to both rears.

I'm thinking that I might leave the ABS in mine, with a switch to turn it on/off, then just install two adj. prop. valves in the cabin in place of the stock ones. As long as you set them the same should work just fine (maybe you could do some fun stuff turn brake style with this setup). Best of both worlds, on demand.

Gary