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So either case it looks like everyone agrees that the scoop doesnt draw much air. Meaning all the SAAB intercoolers have no function. But wait, many board members say the SAAB intercooler helps even without using some type of air diverter :?:
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as I've been saying all along, a top mount air/air cooler on a legacy/liberty is a bad idea unless you change the size of the scoop. even without a scoop with zero airflow a cooler will help a bit, but i can think of better ways to spend your money than a top mount air/air if you want the car to still look like a legacy/liberty.
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If the Saab topmount with stock hood scoop pulled no air then it would make it worse. The surface area of the intake would be larger so more heat would enter from the ambient air.
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ciper wrote:If the Saab topmount with stock hood scoop pulled no air then it would make it worse. The surface area of the intake would be larger so more heat would enter from the ambient air.
if the underhood temp is 140 degrees, and the compressed air is at 180 degrees, how is it gonna get hotter?
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adding an intercooler will still be worse if it's not cooling....simply because it's an added restriction in the intake.
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"underhood temp is 140 degrees, and the compressed air is at 180 degrees, how is it gonna get hotter?"

Thats true. It would still cool it. The only issue Id see with that is the pressure changes from the intercooler causing a loss in power instead of a gain.
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Post by NemesisEJ22t »

All i have to say is that whenever i really boost a lot, then stop and let it idle, the Saab intercooler has never been even warm to the touch. This tells me that its getting some kind of airflow from somewhere or its not working at all which i am pretty sure is not true because my butt dyno has noticed a difference.
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boost it up to 15psi and see if it works
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Post by NemesisEJ22t »

I've had problems hitting fuel cut recently, so i can't go over 12-13 psi (what my gauge reads), but i still haven't gotten it to get warm. I'm not really complaining, its pretty cool that the air is not as hot when it goes into the engine.
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